Talk:WikiForHumanRights/Join the Challenge/Archive

Question about the description in the reward section

Hello, I'm currently translating description into Japanese. I noticed that in the Rules and Rewards section, it says:

> The top 10 contributors will get a certificate for participation from UN Human Rights and the Wikimedia Foundation.

I assume that the word "council" is missing after the "UN Human Rights". Is this a typo?

Thanks --TAKAHASHI Shuuji (talk) 03:04, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

@TAKAHASHI Shuuji Hi! So the certificate is not from the Council, but for the professional office supporting the council: https://www.ohchr.org/en/ohchr_homepage -- They go by both Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights or UN Human Rights. Astinson (WMF) (talk) 13:43, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

I understand. Thanks for making me clear. TAKAHASHI Shuuji (talk) 23:07, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

does trying to get an article to good article status count?

Hello, I am interested in working on an existing article and trying to get it to good article status. This doesn't involve adding a new section, though it may involve re-arranging and copy editing existing sections. Can I participate in this challenge with this project? Thanks 76.14.37.32 04:44, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

Hi! So we don't have extra points for those kinds of improvements, but that kind of improvement should be covered by

• 1 point: for every 2000 bytes of additional content added to an article that includes at least one reference per 2000 bytes to a topic in scope whether through translation, expanding articles or article creation
• 1/2 point: For every two existing photos from Wikimedia Commons on another Wikimedia project with a well written caption

I am assuming improving an existing article, includes activities like those two. Astinson (WMF) (talk) 13:46, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

I think it would be great if changes were counted too, so the bytes don't have to be additional. And deletions should count as well if someone is cleaning up an article. I'll do my edits as I had planned, and if it ends up being no points, that's OK. It'll still be fun to participate :) Ruthgrace (talk) 19:24, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

Hi @Ruthgrace totally! The prizes and points are kindof a bonus that some folks find motivating, and we really are designing the campaign outputs around expanding coverage in different language Wikipedias or adding a human perspective to the environmental crises. Astinson (WMF) (talk) 22:16, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

Happy to Participate

ought to involve being a legal Student and Happy to Participate in #WikiForHumanRights 2022: Right to a healthy environment Bvprasadtewiki (talk)

@Bvprasadtewiki: Sounds good! Astinson (WMF) (talk) 13:46, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

المدرب العراقي الكبير عادل جرجيس سوف يتم نشر السيرة الذاتية عن قريب عادل جرجيس (talk) 16:37, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

أود المشاركه والكتابه في مقالات تخص حقوق الطفل . كيفيه المشاركه ؟ نانسي نبيل فوده (talk) 16:17, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

Missing word?

In the section about Commons, a word seems to be missing between "using" and "on" in "For every two new photos that you upload using on a Wikimedia project with a well written caption". PamD (talk) 10:34, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

@PamD Good catch, tweaked, Astinson (WMF) (talk) 13:52, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

Few questions

1) Since the theme is on environmental issues, will the edits on topics like activism against racism not be counted?

Try to focus on the overlap of racism and environmental injustice: (see en:Environmental racism, or en:Environmental justice or en:Climate justice or Indigenous land rights) -- we welcome folks contributing on other human rights topics (use the hashtag) -- remember too you could always add a human rights perspective that describes the overlap of the two topics, in different parts of an article. I.e. expanding an article about an informal settlement, marginalized community, mining locations that both violate racial and environmental rights etc.

2) Are we supposed to include #WikiForHumanRights in every edit summary? Like, if we expand an article paragraph-by-paragraph, are we supposed to include it in all of the edit summaries, or only including it in the last or the first edit will do?

It doesn't need to be every edit summary, but at least one per page you edit: it helps us quantify # of articles and # of languages effected. These kinds of tracking approaches are never perfect, and the points still need to be manually recorded.

3) I use two accounts: one for specifically editing Hindi Wiki, and this one for all the other Wikis. Should I list my both accounts in the participants' section?

As long as the account is publicly identified as connected, we are happy to count those as one contributor.

Thanks in advance. Lightbluerain❄ (Talk | contribs) 17:35, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

@Lightbluerain: See inline responses above, Astinson (WMF) (talk) 22:23, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

@Astinson (WMF), great. Thanks! Lightbluerain❄ (Talk | contribs) 18:46, 14 April 2022 (UTC)

How abt the people rights Dazzi73 (talk) 21:54, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

When?

Hello! I added two Commons images and listed them below my name, but the competition technically does not start until April 15. Do these two photos still count or do they not? Thank you! Helloheart (talk) 23:20, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

Hi! We won't be counting contributions until the start of the campaign. I am sorry that that happened, but I also recommend that you review the quality recommendations from Wikimedia Commons, Astinson (WMF) (talk) 12:42, 14 April 2022 (UTC)

Stop activist takeover, it's the end of any project.

WP organises knowledge, Amnesty International and others fight for human rights (or so they claim at least). No need to mix things up, no need to add another bureaucratic layer that suffocates real work, there's too much politicising as it is anyway. --Tickle me (talk) 04:30, 14 April 2022 (UTC)

Hi @Tickle me we are focusing on topics that appeal to advocates, but encouraging documentation via all the best practices of Wikimedia contribution: community editorial rules, volunteer contributions, etc. To be clear, we are not working with Amnesty, but instead UN organizations to identify high impact topics that have plentiful high quality sources. I am not sure I understand your comment " add another bureaucratic layer that suffocates real work", and recommend you read my diff post explaining why we need to create invitations to other kinds of contributors, Astinson (WMF) (talk) 12:55, 14 April 2022 (UTC)

انسانیت

انسان بڑھ رہے ہیں مگر انسانیت ختم ہوتی جا رہی ہے Meer72 (talk) 16:56, 14 April 2022 (UTC)

Clarification on photography rules

Hi all, we realized that the initial photography rule was unclear. Pinging two contributors who have uploaded a photo @Helloheart and IsmaelDa10: Astinson (WMF) (talk) 11:01, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

Hello,how do delete the photos which I've Uploaded? It's now I understand How I must upload a new articles with the Hastag at the end of the edit summary. Am I right ? IsmaelDa10 (talk) 12:41, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

Notifying participants from last year

@Gandalf the Groovy, Sitaphul, John Samuel, Ilnur efende, Gereon K., Persia, Rabahnadji, Likeanechointheforest, DaSupremo, Mélanie Huguet, Brihaspati, Rajeeb, Rafaelsoaresdelima, ScribereEstContendere, HynekJanac, Aethelfirth, Jaume Llecha, Thas Tayapongsak, Adolfobrigido, Kunokuno, Labyrinthulomycetes, Nayan j Nath, Aras Nouri, Bilorv, Joofjoof, G.L.Sirius, Salil Kumar Mukherjee, EduardoFP7, Ajeeshkumar4u, Fritzmann, Ajay, Md. Golam Mukit Khan, Dr-Taher, Reda Raouchaia, CalliandraDysantha, Аrmineghayan, Ahmed Samy, Mohammad Murtaza Zaidi, Simranjeet Sidhu, Rwebogora, Cbyd, Tuga1143, Artemev Nikolay, Prajjwal3959, Meenakshi nandhini, and Elisardojm:

Hi All! During the 2021 #WikiForHumanRights Challenge you contributed points last year! I wanted to invite you to contribute again this year. Notable changes, include a simplified new rule system and a new topic list that includes more Biodiversity and Pollution topics. I hope you contribute, and get a chance to join us again this year! Astinson (WMF) (talk) 12:02, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

Cleanup & Addition?

Hello, the topic lists needs cleaning up:

• Remove duplicate entries
• List all wikis participants contribute to
• Provide a way to automatically calculate the points earned?

Just ideas-Eptalon (talk) 12:23, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

@Eptalon I am not sure what you mean by duplicates, you can contribute to any Wikipedia and we can add more languages to the list table if you want, and there is no easy way to automatically calculate points unfortunately. Astinson (WMF) (talk) 11:56, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

What's happening in Uganda

I think we can try to pressurise the Ugandan government to stop torturing political prisoners and arresting in innocent souls for the crimes they haven't committed. We can also use the opposition parties in the run against such injustices of murder, poisoning which are currently happening in Uganda. International ogranisations like the IMF which fund the government should come up with strict measures and put conditions which favour human rights when funding the Ugandan government. Media should also join the fight against human rights violations although media houses in Uganda can't do it because of fear of closure but we can also spear head the campaign on human rights via social justice platforms like Facebook, Twitter and so on. Vialbanks ug (talk) 22:18, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Reminder to record your points if you want to be considered for prizes

@იაკობ მახარაძე, Gwanki, Ola.mahadi, M Bash Ne, Zend2020, Ewlikodjo, J ansari, JoyStick101, CafeGurrier66, Joacom14, AIstruckbob, CLAUDIO-RESTANI, Ngodinhquang, Ainty Painty, James Moore200, Musaddam Idriss, Godstime Elijah, Musahfm, Takenari Higuchi, Kippelboy, Endrabcwizart, Godstime Elijah, Persia, Mohammad Murtaza Zaidi, Hussein m mmbaga, Ibjaja055, Elvorix, Script.meta, Bvprasadtewiki, Agbalagba, TAKAHASHI Shuuji, Mashkawat.ahsan, Artemev Nikolay, Kilimannejaro, PamD, Ogeid01, Northern Legend, ShrekisLife, Luma Salman Hameed, Justiyaya, Lomoraronald, Meghmollar2017, Uncle Bash007, DaSupremo, Saliousoft, MRG90, and DongNhutHuy0902:

Thank you all for participating in the international writing challenge. We noticed that you registered for the campaign, but did not record points and/or contributions at: WikiForHumanRights/Join_the_Challenge. Please do so before May 18 if you want to be considered for prizes. If not, thank you for participating, 14:14, 16 May 2022 (UTC) Astinson (WMF) (talk) 14:14, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

@Astinson (WMF): Question: What measure do we use for the size of the article? Eg the en:United Nations Special Rapporteur on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples I've created is "Wiki text: 2588 B" but "Prose size (text only): 350 B (56 words) "readable prose size" " (much of it is a table). Which figure must be "of at least 2000 bytes"? PamD (talk) 19:33, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

@PamD Bytes added as assessed by the software -- when working across wikis, there is not a reliable way to look at bytes prose. Astinson (WMF) (talk) 20:42, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

@Astinson (WMF): I have already recorded both the points and contributions. Do I need to add anything? Kind regards, --იაკობ მახარაძე (talk) 07:49, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

Interesting, something must have gone wrong in my analysis. You are good! Astinson (WMF) (talk) 12:28, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for reminder. I updated my points. I can translate only three articles but this was a really good opportunity to expose various important topics related to our environment. I hope I can translate remaining articles in my spare time in the future. Thanks! TAKAHASHI Shuuji (talk) 14:44, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

will update quickly ```` Bvprasadtewiki (talk) 05:14, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

@Astinson (WMF): I created an article but it's still under review. I don't think I can add scores for a draft? It needs to be accepted before I can record it's points, right? Please help.

--AIstruckbob (talk) 10:36, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

@AIstruckbob please record it, thanks! Astinson (WMF) (talk) 12:28, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

@Astinson (WMF): i created 100+ articles but couldn't record my points as my exams were going to start from 17th of May. It ended yesterday. If i record my points now, will it be considered for the prize?Prajjwal3959 (talk) 05:13, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

Winners

Hi all! Apologies for the delay in notifying you of the winners! We were analyzing the campaign, and wanted to make sure that we were able to connect the celebration of your contributions with the larger campaign. We were excited that the whole campaign, including local events, included over 700 contributors and improvements to over 4000 Wikipedia articles -- as well as improvements to Wikidata and Commons.

This year, the top 3 contributors  went to:

• 1st @Krutyvuss:  - 1575   
• 2nd @Gwanki:   405 
• 3rd @იაკობ მახარაძე:  346

The other top contributors who will get a special prize for top Non-UN Languages will be:

• @Qolcomaq: 292
• @Limbo.J: 233
• @Tuga1143: 200

Other top 10 contributors who will receive certificates:

• @نزار المكرمي: 162
• @Yestaxiy: 157.5
• @Iwuala Lucy: 139
• @মজুমদার সাহেব:  129
• @Eureca: 104

We also realized that there was a gray area in the rules for the writing contest, and we wanted to provide an additional special honorable mention for @Achiri Bitamsimli: who recorded 3409.3 Points. They contributed batch improvement to labels in Dagbani for Wikidata items related to biographies of people involved in human rights by doing this in batch with Quickstatement; after spotchecking the Wikidata items, we concluded that most of the labels were an improvement, but not to Wikidata items generally in the scope of the theme of the campaign. They will get a prize equivalent to the Non-UN language Prize of $50 credit to the Wikimedia Store and a certificate.

To claim your prize, please email astinsonwikimediaorg and I will collect your email for coordinate the Wikimedia store prizes and desired name for the certificate. Astinson (WMF) (talk) 15:12, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

Template

Hey, the template on the Italian page needs to be fixed, horizontal lines come out of the box. Thanks, 151.42.157.202 09:44, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

L'enfer c'est les autres

À tous Marc Konan (talk) 22:52, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

Waouh c'est super cette sujet Marc Konan (talk) 22:53, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

Clarification on points per article and future evaluation

Greetings @Astinson (WMF), I have two questions:

1. 1 - there are people addings articles in which, for example, only 50% of the article text is supported by sources, and the other 50% has no sources. Will the jury pay attention to this? Or everything counts, even content without sources?
2. 2 - if I understood well, the maximum points per article we can have is 3 (one bonus, one new article, one 2000 bytes added), but I see people, for example, writing 23 points in a single article. Who's wrong? the 2000 bytes added to a single article counts only once, or if I add 10k bytes, it will count as 5 points?

Thank you, Luís Almeida "Tuga1143 22:17, 11 May 2023 (UTC)

@Tuga1143 apologies for the delay in response, you caught be out of office last week, and I missed the notification until today.

1. we are counting the total number of bytes added, and looking for content that is mostly of high quality. If it appears that the content is entirely unsourced, or doesn't appear reliable we may reevaluate giving points for that.
2. We recently noticed that as well -- yes the max number of points this year should be only 3, and were trying to figure out what happened -- we think it has something to do with the translation of the rules -- where the old calculation method was not translated for all contributors -- even though we marked it for translation. Instead of trying to disrupt folks working in multiple languages, to recalculate the scores for folks that appear to be winners (all of the top 15-20 contributors). Each year we do this with contributors anyway -- because we have noticed that self-calculation, frequently will have gaps or problems.

We will make sure all submissions are scored fairly by the published English language rules -- the more important thing is listing the articles you contribute to.

Cheers, Astinson (WMF) (talk) 01:05, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

@Astinson (WMF), thank you so much for your answer, I'm really thankful for that. Cheers, Luís Almeida "Tuga1143 09:13, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

Reminder to submit articles worked on

@Krutyvuss, Gwanki, Nafisathallah, Քրմապետ, Pangalau, Salema younus, 31.128.161.18, منى ناصر ثابت علام حُزين, Wikipedsaur, Irvin calicut, ~aanzx, Cbyd, Tuga1143, EduardoFP7, Yaw tuba, Tetraeder, Jwale2, VALENTIN NVJ, Evedawn99, Alperen, Racilona, Fued Katari, Dplanter, Wadaihangit, Mohammed Harith Khalil, Luma Salman Hameed, WikiMogra, سیانف, Pols12, Siabdou95, SophiaAll, Colporteur malandrin, Anjaniy, Brenac40, Labdajiwa, Kaushalsahil, Sabyrzhan07, Бронко, Perfectnews, Macocobovi, ABDUL-MUMIN (BELIEVER), and SIR SUCCESS (NAA JAHINFO):

A gentle reminder to submit your articles that you worked on during the campaign period on the subpage for the event: WikiForHumanRights/Join_the_Challenge/Contributions before the end of the day tomorrow, May 17!

We noticed that many people calculated points using last year's calculation process due to translation errors, we will be recalculating submissions for qualifying edits during the jury process. Astinson (WMF) (talk) 01:16, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

Thank you so much, I'm really thankful for you. منى ناصر ثابت علام حُزين (talk) 19:00, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

Disappointment

Lack of Wikipedia Focus on WikiForHumanRights SaylerWade (talk) 08:42, 2 June 2023 (UTC)

Despite being a regular reader and contributor/editor of and to Wikipedia, I was unaware of WikiForHumanRights. I'd never seen the text at the top of a page as I'd seen earlier today. I arrived at the information, only to find the deadline expired... SaylerWade (talk) 08:49, 2 June 2023 (UTC)