Talk:Response to 2017 ban in Turkey/Sig
Latest comment: 7 years ago by MarcoAurelio in topic Italian IP's?
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Italian IP's?
editWhy so many of them signing here? I also don't see the purpose of this page. Will it help in something? Stryn (talk) 18:34, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
- Yeah why is there now an absurd amount of signatures from IPs? Samwalton9 (talk) 09:36, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
- Oh, they're running a banner. Samwalton9 (talk) 09:37, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
- Yeah, https://it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Sitenotice&oldid=87518380 --Nemo 07:21, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
- Are we sure all of them are real signatures and not a bot adding fake signatures? Timing between all of them is very suspicious for me. —MarcoAurelio 11:29, 21 May 2017 (UTC)
- It is very weird to have so many Italian signatures. I expected to see Wikipedia user names i.e. signs with
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, not this. We might exclude now all of them, to the separate place, in order to have a meaningful number of real support signs (and note somewhere that there is also x of Italian signatures coming from unknown IPs). Or exclude all IPs... - Actually, all Wikipedia users should support unblocking, so this "support voting" is not much of a meaningful project.--Obsuser (talk) 13:56, 21 May 2017 (UTC)
- It is very weird to have so many Italian signatures. I expected to see Wikipedia user names i.e. signs with
- Are we sure all of them are real signatures and not a bot adding fake signatures? Timing between all of them is very suspicious for me. —MarcoAurelio 11:29, 21 May 2017 (UTC)
- Yeah, https://it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Sitenotice&oldid=87518380 --Nemo 07:21, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
- Oh, they're running a banner. Samwalton9 (talk) 09:37, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
This is very obvious: a bot is adding names either from some list or generates them. It's impossible that so many Italians add their signatures every minute or so. Someone should stop this and find source that generates IPs and spoils voting. --Obsuser (talk) 13:20, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
- How should this bot change its IP every few minutes? Or is there a way of IP-spoofing here, that nobody is aware of? I think, it's mainly the itWP-wide banner that attracts so many people to sign up. there were as well far too many faulty entries in the beginning of the Italian surge, a bot would have been blameless on the syntax side. Grüße vom Sänger ♫(Reden) 15:16, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
- I don't know but it is very unlikely (I would say impossible) that thousands of Italians are sitting in front of their PCs or visit Wikipedia/Meta right now and all of them are voting support every minute or so, and from some other countries with much greater or greater populations like Russia, France, Germany, USA, UK etc. – and after all Turkey itself (via VPNs) there is so few signs. Why is Italy only giving that much (80%) support, what is logic...
- @Stryn, Samwalton9, Nemo bis, and MarcoAurelio: Let's add Meta banner to all Wikipedias so we attract others' attention too if problem is that people don't even know for block in Turkey. It would be very useful to do this, because many users from big communities like it is mine (sr.wikipedia) maybe don't know for this and individual calls for voting from individual users on every Wikipedia don't exist or are rare. --Obsuser (talk) 22:49, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
- ItWP is the only one with a Sitenotice, a banner, where one click brings you just here. That's a huge difference. in deWP you have to read the pages, that are only knpwn to insiders, like Kurier, or know about meta at all, something very few people do. 04:18, 23 May 2017 (UTC) — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sänger (talk)
- @Stryn, Samwalton9, Nemo bis, and MarcoAurelio: Let's add Meta banner to all Wikipedias so we attract others' attention too if problem is that people don't even know for block in Turkey. It would be very useful to do this, because many users from big communities like it is mine (sr.wikipedia) maybe don't know for this and individual calls for voting from individual users on every Wikipedia don't exist or are rare. --Obsuser (talk) 22:49, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
- Please no. The /sig page is already flooded by Italian IP's and it's impossible to follow the recent changes on Meta :/. Stryn (talk) 15:22, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
- My proposal is to protect or remove the whole page, as it's not helping anything... Stryn (talk) 15:24, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
- All those signatures are obviously not real and defeats the purpose of this page. I think we've got quite enough, so I'm for closing the page and stop the bot/botnet operating here. —MarcoAurelio 11:34, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
- I've created filter 142. —MarcoAurelio 14:03, 29 May 2017 (UTC)