Talk:Live mirrors
Blocked special pages
editIf a remote loader is blocking access to Special: pages, you can work around that by placing the following code on any page (such as a sandbox):
{{Special:Recentchanges}}
It's an easy way to get incontrovertible proof that they're remote loading, although any ordinary edit would do too.
Purpose
editIs the purpose of this list to immediately block these sites? It seems that loading once and then caching would have minimal impact on Wikipedia's hardware, for instance.
- No - that is what database dumps are for. — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 20:39, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
Anybody there?
editAre the developers actively blocking these sites or are people listing them on the assumption that developers will take action when they're not actually paying attention? If not, does this mean that live mirroring is not seen as a significant problem? 79.68.252.128 00:06, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
What's wrong?
editWhat's wrong with live mirrors? Ever heard of the GFDL?
- Using Content on GFDL is no problem - there are DB-Dumps. Using Wikimedia resources is an other, since these are paid by donations wich are not given to support SEOs. C-M 08:23, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
- Also claiming that they are wikipedia (i.e. by reusing the wikipedia logo) is a problem, besides that some of these sites fail to comply to some of the GFDL terms like naming of the authors or such. --PaterMcFly 20:53, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
Clarification
editOn the use of Commons images. If a site, not a mirror, is linking in a handful of commons images, instead of hosting them directly, would that be considered a "live mirror"? Should we clarify what sort of image-use linking is acceptable in this case? Wjhonson 21:45, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
- It's the purpose of Commons, so to some extent that shouldn't be an issue. Ironically it is the biggest potential bandwidth eater. Rich Farmbrough 03:30 12 January 2013 (GMT).
Wide table, and getting wider.... wrap table columns?
editIt would be nice if each entry listed when it was added to this list and when it was last updated. But that makes it even more ridiculously wide. Perhaps the data should be wrapped across several rows to make it all fit in a normal browser window? Group the long and short fields together into columns, and a big field at the bottom for additional notes, like so:
List
editNumber | Date Created | status | Domain |
---|---|---|---|
Date Updated | ranked | link to a special page | |
GFDL compliant | text / image | Access via Open Proxy? | |
Notes and other information | |||
118 | 17:22, 29 September 2008 | up | http://www.popkult.de (from de-WP) |
17:18, 8 December 2008 | no | Special:Mytalk | |
in parts | both | ||
no GFDL, no authors, own copyright | |||
139 | 02:52, 4 February 2009 | up | http://www.spivo.com/encyclopedia/ |
yes #032 | http://www.spivo.com/encyclopedia/?title=Special:MyTalk | ||
No | Both | No? | |
nothing about GFDL; no history, no link to actual article; pulls content in real-time. Special pages do not always work, see talk page for work-around |
I acknowledge that moving table cells around for a project page this huge is a major chore. DMahalko 09:18, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
mistermedley
editThis site is mirroring my userpage on Wikipedia, so may well be mirroring other stuff. I can't figure how to add to the list, so am posting here. Thanks. --Ebyabe 22:36, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
selltimeshare.uk
editSee http://www.selltimeshare.co.uk/wiki.asp?k=timeshare as an example.Naraht 20:11, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
"they can have it auto-update once a day or the like to keep it current"
editHow would they do that? Does anyone have some code for implementing that? And if they're going to do that, then why not just update it continuously? Leucosticte (talk) 12:06, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
- I think that was written when Wikipedia was much smaller. Rich Farmbrough 03:28 12 January 2013 (GMT).
Site
editIt is difficult to add a site here, so I'm just going to list it on the talk page:
Example page: http://www.hifisound.freeiz.com/?sound=Crescent_Hotel
- Rich Farmbrough 03:28 12 January 2013 (GMT).
Wikivoyage
editThere's a note here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikivoyage/Lounge#Alert_live_mirror.21 that ended with a suggestion to link it here. However, I don't think there is enough information in the message to construct a new entry here. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 15:07, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
Building EN Wikipedia mirror
editI am seeking help in creating a daily updated EN Wikipedia mirror. This mirror needs all meta, but not necessarily media from commons. Media from commons can be stage 2. This mirror needs to be updated every 24 hours (or more frequent if deemed feasible). Hardware and bandwidth resources are available for this project. I have read Dr. Kent L. Millers work on wiki mirrors (http://www.nongnu.org/wp-mirror/) . Not sure it is the best approach. Has anyone made a successful one as I have described? Seeking all input (failures and successes) please. Thebluegold (talk) 18:37, 9 October 2017 (UTC)
en.bywiki.com
editDoes this qualify? https://en.bywiki.com/wiki/Theta_Sigma_Upsilon It includes changes that I made less than 10 minutes ago and doesn't change anything except adding advertisements.Naraht (talk) 17:38, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
Where is a list of mirrors which actually work please?
editI mean for those of us here in Turkey without access to Wikipedia but with access to this meta it would be good to have a list here.
Caching HTML only
editIs it acceptable to cache only HTML and to leave any img
and similar tags as they are, thus loading image and other files from Wikipedia file servers when the cached page is shown? Mitar (talk) 12:06, 1 January 2022 (UTC)