Talk:Community Tech/E-Book Export Reliability

Problems with sections

Sections (<section begin/><section end/>) seem to be a problem when creating E-Books. --Dorades (talk) 22:11, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

@Dorades: Could you elaborate on what sections you mean? Is this about the subpage structure, or the fact that tables of contents sometimes don't work, or something else? Thanks! —Sam Wilson 23:43, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

Sorry, seems that the issue is already resolved. Thought of problems in connection with this bug and had in mind, that it is still a issue, which doesn't seem to be the case. --Dorades (talk) 17:39, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

502 Bad Gateway

I can not access the tool. As far as I remember, it should be filled out the articles name automatic in the tool, no neutral landing page. It would be good to have a Index with often used words, like in the book exporter for Wikipedia articles. Regards, Conny (talk) 03:10, 5 April 2019 (UTC).

Thanks for your post Conny. It sounds like you're reporting yet another case of WSexport going missing. I've compiled a list of similar reports in a ticket we created to investigate what is causing these failures. Look the list over and if there's something different about your case, please report it (on Phabricator, or write it up here; be sure to include a link to the book you're trying to download). Otherwise, stand by and watch the project page for updates; things should get better in the coming months. —JMatazzoni (WMF) (talk) 17:03, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

@JMatazzoni (WMF): Thank you! Regards, Conny (talk) 19:52, 7 April 2019 (UTC).

Export of Index and Page namespaces

Hi, thanks for working on this tool! Would you, please, also consider including an option to export the entire index page (Index namespace) or a custom range of book file pages (Page namespace) into one single file? Basically like transclusion but for the export tool.--Emptyfear (talk) 13:14, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

Hi Emptyfear. Can you say a bit more about what you are trying to do? What is your goal in exporting a custom range, instead of the whole book? It sounds like you're thinking about a feature along the lines of the "Book Creator," which on English Wikipedia, anyway, is accessed through the "Create a book" link in the left nav? JMatazzoni (WMF) (talk) 18:52, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

50 → 179 minutes downtime?

If the issues are resolved, how did the downtime triple this time from second half of May? Also, what happened to specific dates/periods for uptime stats? George Ho (talk) 20:59, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

502 again

see https://github.com/wsexport/tool/issues/204.
Zdzislaw (talk) 12:14, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

When will the corrections be implemented

@JMatazzoni (WMF): Hello Joe,

I have noticed that the proposal “Improve export of electronic books” is marked as Finished.

I have noticed a great improvement on the reliability of the exports. This is really great.

As I am testing the books that I had problems with, I noticed that none of the problematic situations inside the texts are solved (text missing, text in double, table scrambled, text in table not aligned as in Wikisource… These situations still occur either in PDF, ePub ou Mobi format.). This was one of the main issue of course in order to improve reliability to readers.

My questions is: when will the improvements by implemented in French Wikisource. Thank you. --Viticulum (talk) 20:21, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Hello @JMatazzoni (WMF):. Have you had time to read my question ? Thank you. --Viticulum (talk) 21:16, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

@Viticulum: Joe is not working on this project any more. Are the issues you mention recorded as bugs here: https://github.com/wsexport/tool/issues ? If they're not, would you be able to create new issues for them, so we can track and hopefully fix them? Thanks! Sam Wilson 13:00, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

Thank you @Samwilson: for answering. My question is : when will the improvements by implemented in French Wikisource ?

On the page project it is written : "Make sure e-books are legible: The Wishlist wish for this project references the problem of “pages with missing...or scrambled information.” Our second priority will be to address as many issues as we can that cause the contents of a downloaded book to be unreadable or incomplete."

This is the main reason we submited a request in the wishlist survey. No one in French Wikisource knows if the solution is implemented... (it does not look like it is...)

In a discussion on my page, I offered my help to Joe to explain the many situations that are problematic with no return.

I do not know what is github.

Thank you for your help and information. --Viticulum (talk) 19:19, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

@Viticulum: All improvements that have been done on the tool have already been deployed, so any issues you're still seeing will still need to be worked on. Mostly the fixed issues were around reliability of the tool, but there were a few things around epub validation and display. Could you please link to where you have discussed the issues you're experiencing? I can't find anything on your talk page. And as for Github: don't worry about what it is, but could you have a look at that list and say if your issues are written there? Thanks. —Sam Wilson 00:23, 26 September 2019 (UTC)

Hi @Samwilson: Thank you for this information. I will inform the community that the project is implemented, since no one seems to be informed as far as I know.

The request Improve export of electronic books states "Imagine if Wikipedia displayed pages with missing information or scrambled information." among other issues. These problems are still happening. It was the purpose of this request in the wishlist survey to address and to solve the bugs.

I have answered to Joe Matazzoni, on my talk page that I am at his disposition to help. I never was contacted to supply any more information concerning the request. As a former business computer analyst, I do not understand this way of working.

Github: the issues are not written there as no one ever told us to do so...

So what are the bugs corrected since no one asked the community information about them?

Can you help, we have no information here in french Wikisoure. --Viticulum (talk) 18:53, 26 September 2019 (UTC)

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(outdent)  @Viticulum: I'm sorry you were not informed enough before now, and thank you for taking the time to help get things working better. Although CommTech has finished with the project, I'm still happy to work on it in my own time. The tasks that were completed were mostly around reliability; you can see lists here and here. There don't seem to be any open tasks about "missing information or scrambled information", so you could please give an example of a book that is currently exporting incorrectly (and explain what's wrong with it)? Thanks! Sam Wilson 22:11, 26 September 2019 (UTC)

Hello @Samwilson: I have started documenting different bugs and finding examples. I had to work in Wikisource because it is easier for me. WsExport worked fine this weekend, unfortunately, today (at least since 11AM Montreal), I on get "502 Bad Gateway". So I have to wait to complete my examples. Here is the preliminary : In my Wikisource page. I will be in contact soon. --Viticulum (talk) 20:43, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

Hello again @Samwilson:. I have documented different bugs in my page In my Wikisource page. So what would be the next step ? Do you want me to enter these problems in GitHub ? (And why is it not Phabricator by the way ?) Since the project in "Community Wishlist Survey 2019" is closed, what will happen next ?
So I assume you are on this picture in Wikisource meetup Wikimania Montreal 2017. I am the guy above the left shoulder of the kneeling man and I have a red volunteer mark on my badge, in a blue shirt.
Thank you for your help. --Viticulum (talk) 15:25, 7 October 2019 (UTC)