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This is an archive page. Please do not edit anymore. The confirmation has ended.

This page was for the Stewards to discuss the confirmation of the year 2007. DO NOT EDIT IF YOU ARE NOT A STEWARD. If you are not a steward, and want to correct an error, please mention so on the talk page.

Summary of results of confirmationEdit

All arguments (even if false or ridiculous) are primarily here summarized. Then stewards can discuss whether these arguments are relevant and valid, and whether they should lead to non-confirmation.

Fantasy and Datrio have chosen not to stay for confirmation, and their steward rights can be removed.

This is   Done. — Dan | talk 23:33, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Nihil obstatEdit

The following stewards received no objections:

  • Angela
  • Anthere
  • Bastique
  • Cspurrier
  • Daniel Mayer
  • Dbl2010
  • Drini
  • Effeietsanders
  • Jon Harald Søby
  • M7
  • MaxSem
  • Oscar
  • Redux
  • Rdsmith4
  • Shizhao
  • Walter

AusirEdit

  • Inactivity
No activity since the last board elections where he was candidate. I suggest not to confirm Effeietsanders 22:56, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
I hate these kind of decisions, but steward tools should be retained by active users. Cary Bass demandez 15:18, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
Stated that he doesn't care if he gets confirmed or not (or something in those lines). From that and inactivity, I sadly suggest not to confirm --filip 15:36, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
With regret, and per my statement on the page. do not confirm ++Lar: t/c 15:48, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
inactive, not to confirm--Nick1915 - all you want 15:48, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
Conclusion - not confirmed.   Done - I removed the steward status. Effeietsanders 12
50, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

DarkonekoEdit

  • Misbehaviour as French bureaucrat
My French is not good enough to find the cases, and I can't judge the seriousness of these accusations. But in any case I doubt this had influence on his behaviour as a steward, or tells something about his state of mind in general. I suggest confirmation Effeietsanders 22:58, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
confirmDerHexer (Talk) 15:24, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
confirm --filip 15:36, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
confirm--Nick1915 - all you want 15:43, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
confirm ++Lar: t/c 15:48, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
reconfirm Jon Harald Søby 12:42, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
Confirm --.anaconda 13:01, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
reconfirm, this objection is largely irrelevant. MaxSem(Han shot first!) 16:06, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
Conclusion - Confirmed as a steward.
Effeietsanders 12:54, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

guillomEdit

  • Insulting remark [1] during steward elections.
I would suggest that he apologies, then keep him steward. But apology seems necessary Anthere 03:26, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
Please consider his apology here, thanks, I suggest confirmation, --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 23:00, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
Confirm. — Dan | talk 23:19, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
confirmDerHexer (Talk) 15:26, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
confirm --filip 15:36, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
strong confirm--Nick1915 - all you want 15:43, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
confirm Note that the indent level being different from steward to steward doesn't mean anything :) ++Lar: t/c 15:49, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
Fixed it, I couldn't stand it any more. :) ++Lar: t/c 16:05, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
confirm --Millosh 16:11, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
reconfirm, ouef cœrse. Jon Harald Søby 12:42, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
reconfirm, certainly. MaxSem(Han shot first!) 15:53, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
Confirm --.anaconda 13:01, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
Conclusion - Confirmed as a steward.
Effeietsanders 12:55, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

PaginazeroEdit

  • Not a good idea of what collaboration means
Confirm. The person who wrote this gave no details, and there is one other objection with no reason written at all; but plenty of folks want Paginazero to stay on in spite of his reduced activity. I see no problem here. — Dan | talk 23:27, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
The comment above probably arose from a quarrel about the Wikipedia in Lombard and I do not see any problematic action by Paginazero. Confirm. --M/ 23:42, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
confirm --filip 15:36, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
Confirm, I've seen a sort of "racist" vote against all it candidates from those users. I do not see any problematic action by Paginazero too.--Nick1915 - all you want 15:40, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
No opinion ++Lar: t/c 15:51, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
Reconfirm - issue has no relevance to steward activity. Cary Bass demandez 16:05, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
reconfirm Jon Harald Søby 12:42, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
Confirm, per M/. --.anaconda 13:05, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
Conclusion - Confirmed as a steward.
Effeietsanders 12:55, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

PathoschildEdit

  • He is Shanel's slave (joking comment)
Yeah, let's not take this one too seriously. :) Effeietsanders 22:52, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
I've never seen ANYONE get Jesse to actually do something he didn't think was a good idea, not even her. ++Lar: t/c 15:52, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
  • MediaMarkt mentality (please see objection page for detailed description and explanation)
I read the statement, and I do not see enough cause to unconfirm. I suggest confirmation. Effeietsanders 22:59, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
Confirm, by all means. — Dan | talk 23:14, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
confirmDerHexer (Talk) 15:27, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
confirm --filip 15:36, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
--Nick1915 - all you want 15:41, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
Translation: "yes"
confirm ++Lar: t/c 15:52, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
reconfirm; the objection is one of the most ridiculous I've ever seen, especially when you think about who's being criticised. Jon Harald Søby 12:42, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
Confirm --.anaconda 13:08, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
Conclusion - Confirmed as a steward.
Effeietsanders 12:56, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

RomihaitzaEdit

  • Inactivity
Unfortunately not active at all indeed. I suggest not to confirm Effeietsanders 22:59, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
Likewise. — Dan | talk 23:20, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
not to confirm --filip 15:36, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
I don't like these kinds of discussions, which are not about the individual, but steward tools should not be retained by inactive users. Cary Bass demandez 15:46, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
not to confirm per cary--Nick1915 - all you want 15:47, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
do not confirm - Per Cary, with thanks for service given. ++Lar: t/c 15:53, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
do not reconfirm, sadly. I'd wish he was still active – he was a good steward. Jon Harald Søby 12:42, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
Do not confirm, per Cary. --.anaconda 13:11, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
Conclusion - Not confirmed as a steward.   Done - I removed the steward status.
Effeietsanders 12:57, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

ShanelEdit

  • Mean and awful (joking comment)
I fully agree, and very dangerous with chemicals. But I do not think it has severe influence on her behaviour as a steward. I suggest to confirm Shanel. Effeietsanders 22:53, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
Confirm, of course. — Dan | talk 23:21, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
confirmDerHexer (Talk) 15:27, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
confirm --filip 15:36, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
--Nick1915 - all you want 15:42, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
Translation: "yes"
They forgot lazy and a bully. :) confirm ++Lar: t/c 15:54, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
Agree Jon Harald Søby 12:42, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
Confirm :-) --.anaconda 13:12, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
Conclusion - Confirmed as a steward.
Effeietsanders 12:58, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

SjEdit

  • Inactivity
I think Sj's activity is too low indeed. With pain in the heart, I suggest not to confirm Effeietsanders 23:00, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
not to confirm inactive--Nick1915 - all you want 15:45, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
reconfirm SJ has recently become active again, and took the time to provide a brief introduction at the reconfirmation page. Cary Bass demandez 15:48, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
This is the toughest 'activity' one there is in my view. While I found JayHenry's argument compelling, I nevertheless shade toward giving the benefit of the doubt this time and confirm I would ask Sj to consider voluntarily resigning during his term if he finds he cannot keep his commitment to increase activity. ++Lar: t/c 15:56, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
Neutral. I would have opposed, but the recent activity spur changed my mind. Jon Harald Søby 12:42, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
Not sure. If Sj will try to remain at least marginally active... MaxSem(Han shot first!) 16:09, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
Do not confirm -- the rule about inactivity is clear enough. He'll be re-elected easily if ever he decides he has time to be a steward in the future. — Dan | talk 19:57, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
Never mind, I guess he's lately been active again. — Dan | talk 22:43, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
reconfirm he is active again. --Cspurrier 20:28, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
reconfirm --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 15:25, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
Conclusion - Confirmed as a steward.
Effeietsanders 12:59, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

SnowdogEdit

  • Inactivity
I think that his inactivity is indeed striking, and I am sorry for it. I think his inactivity, and his fair admitting that this will not change, makes me to suggest not to confirm Effeietsanders 23:03, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
I agree with Effeietsanders. — Dan | talk 23:15, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
I would like to say "thank you" to Snowdog for his work 'til now and for his frank speech about his few time. A lui vanno anche i miei migliori auguri, e non solo perché si avvicina Natale. --M/ 23:39, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
Per Mario, e anche i miei auguri! ;)--Nick1915 - all you want 15:42, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
Would you guys mind translating for the benefit of it-0 speakers? :) ++Lar: t/c 15:59, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
I've left my own best wishes for him, and not only for Christmas. I also clarify that I agree on the principle of the inactivity. --M/ 16:34, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
my best wishes too :) --Nick1915 - all you want 18:31, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
do not reconfirm I don't like these kinds of discussions, which are not about the individual, but steward tools should not be retained by inactive users. Cary Bass demandez 15:49, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
do not reconfirm per Cary with thanks for past service. ++Lar: t/c 15:59, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
do not reconfirm as the aboves. Jon Harald Søby 12:42, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
Do not confirm, inactivity. --.anaconda 13:16, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Behaviour during past steward elections/confirmations
This is not relevant in my view. ++Lar: t/c 15:59, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Behaviour during closure of Lombard Wikipedia
Somewhat concerning but ultimately not a deciding factor. ++Lar: t/c 15:59, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
Conclusion - Not confirmed as a steward.   Done - I removed the steward status.
Effeietsanders 13:01, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

SuisuiEdit

  • Inactivity
Inactive indeed, I suggest not to confirm Effeietsanders 23:03, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
I agree with Effeietsanders. — Dan | talk 23:15, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
per effe, sadly --filip 15:36, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
not to confirm, inactive--Nick1915 - all you want 15:44, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
I don't like these kinds of discussions, which are not about the individual, but steward tools should not be retained by inactive users. Cary Bass demandez 15:49, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
do not reconfirm per Cary with thanks for past service. ++Lar: t/c 15:59, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
do not reconfirm, per Cary. It's sad though. Jon Harald Søby 12:42, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
Do not confirm, per Cary. --.anaconda 13:17, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
Conclusion - Not confirmed as a steward. -   Done - I removed the steward status.
Effeietsanders 13:03, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

YannEdit

  • Abuse of sysop tools on French Wikipedia
  • Refuses community opinion [on French Wikipedia]
  • Acts like a vandal on French Wikipedia
Can we find an uninvolved Francophone to expain these objections? I know nothing about this dispute. — Dan | talk 23:23, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
I agree, perhaps one of the many french speaking stewards (Anthere, Cary, Darkoneko, Guillom, Oscar, Pathoschild, Redux, or Shanel at least, and I bet I missed at least one!) could translate? Or do we need someone MORE uninvolved? ++Lar: t/c 16:03, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
I am under the opinion that the issues on French Wikipedia are not related to Yann's stewardship ability. There is no indication that Yann has abused his steward tools. Reconfirm with a reminder to avoid the fr.wiki project entirely when involved with steward activities. Cary Bass demandez 16:56, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
reconfirm, per Cary. Jon Harald Søby 12:42, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
reconfirm per my comments at main confirmation page. MaxSem(Han shot first!) 15:54, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
reconfirm. Yann is not the first person who has problems with French community; which starts to talk more about French community then about him. --Millosh 09:01, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
Conclusion - Confirmed as a steward.
Effeietsanders 13:04, 1 January 2008 (UTC)