Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Meitei

main page Request for a new language edition: Wikipedia Meitei
submitted verification final decision
Application-certificate.svg This proposal has been approved.
The Board of Trustees and language committee have deemed that there is sufficient grounds and community to create the new language project.

A committee member provided the following comment:

Approved on 2021-02-01. --MF-W 13:48, 1 February 2021 (UTC) phabricator:T273456
  • The community needs to develop an active test project; it must remain active until approval (automated statistics, recent changes). It is generally considered active if the analysis lists at least three active, not-grayed-out editors listed in the sections for the previous few months.
  • The community needs to complete required MediaWiki interface translations in that language (about localization, translatewiki, check completion).
  • The community needs to discuss and complete the settings table below:
What Value Example / Explanation
Proposal
Language code mni (SILGlottolog) A valid ISO 639-1 or 639-3 language code, like "fr", "de", "nso", ...
Language name Meitei Language name in English
Language name ꯃꯤꯇꯩꯂꯣꯟ Language name in your language. This will appear in the language list on Special:Preferences, in the interwiki sidebar on other wikis, ...
Language Wikidata item Q33868 - item has currently the following values:
  • en label = Meitei
  • native label (P1705) = ꯃꯤꯇꯩ ꯂꯣꯟ
  • instance/subclass (P31/P279) = language, modern language, vulnerable language / Sino-Tibetan
  • Wikimedia language code (P424) = mni
  • writing system (P282) = Meetei Mayek, Bengali script, Bengali–Assamese script
  • number of speakers (P1098) = 1,470,000


Item about the language at Wikidata. It would normally include the Wikimedia language code, name of the language, etc. Please complete at Wikidata if needed.
Directionality LTR Is the language written from left to right (LTR) or from right to left (RTL)?
Links Paochel, Sangaiexpress news, Huyeinlanpao news website, http://www.epao.net/, Catalog System Browse - UW-Madison Libraries is good, have a look at it! Links to previous requests, or references to external websites or documents.
Settings
Project name ꯋꯤꯀꯤꯄꯦꯗꯤꯌꯥ "Wikipedia" in your language
Project namespace ꯋꯤꯀꯤꯄꯦꯗꯤꯌꯥ usually the same as the project name
Project talk namespace ꯋꯤꯀꯤꯄꯦꯗꯤꯌꯥ ꯋꯥ ꯍꯥꯏꯐꯝ "Wikipedia talk" (the discussion namespace of the project namespace)
Enable uploads no Default is "no". Preferably, files should be uploaded to Commons.
If you want, you can enable local file uploading, either by any user ("yes") or by administrators only ("admin").
Notes: (1) This setting can be changed afterwards. The setting can only be "yes" or "admin" at approval if the test creates an Exemption Doctrine Policy (EDP) first. (2) Files on Commons can be used on all Wikis. (3) Uploading fair-use images is not allowed on Commons (more info). (4) Localisation to your language may be insufficient on Commons.
Optional settings
Project logo File:Wikipedia-logo-v2-mni-raster.svg This needs to be an SVG image (instructions for logo creation).
Default project timezone Asia/Kolkata "Continent/City", e.g. "Europe/Brussels" or "America/Mexico City" (see list of valid timezones)
Additional namespaces For example, a Wikisource would need "Page", "Page talk", "Index", "Index talk", "Author", "Author talk".
Additional settings Anything else that should be set
submit phabricator task (includes everything automatically, except additional namespaces/settings)


ProposalEdit

Meetei language is the official language of Manipur. It  has a population of about 1.8 million according to 2011 census of India . Meetei language is the langua franca of state Manipur.

DiscussionEdit

External links [Catalog System Browse - UW-Madison Libraries] is good,have a look at it! https://search.library.wisc.edu/search/system/browse?filter%5Bfacets%5D%5Bcontent_types_facet%7EDictionaries%5D=yes&filter%5Bfacets%5D%5Bsubjects_facet%7EEnglish+language%5D=yes&filter%5Bfacets%5D%5Bsubjects_facet%7EManipuri%5D=yes, https://e-pao.net/, https://huyeinlanpao.com/, https://paochelsalaitaret.net/   The  above links support and help documentation,the article in Meetei language written in Meetei Mayek.

SettingsEdit

Dear contributors, as the language committee intends to approve the creation of Meitei Wikipedia, please check and complete the wiki settings as indicated at the top of the page. Ping User:Awangba Mangang, User:Haoreima, User:Goutamkumar Oinam 2, User:Luwanglinux. --MF-W 17:55, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

And, since this is the first project in Meitei language, we also need the translations of all namespace names:

 Media: ꯃꯦꯗꯤꯌꯥ
 Special: ꯑꯈꯟꯅꯕ
 Talk: ꯋꯥ ꯍꯥꯏꯐꯝ
 User: ꯁꯤꯖꯤꯟꯅꯔꯤꯕ
 User_talk: ꯁꯤꯖꯤꯟꯅꯔꯤꯕ ꯋꯥ ꯍꯥꯏꯐꯝ
 $1_talk [= Project talk, e.g. Wikipedia talk]: $1 ꯋꯥ ꯍꯥꯏꯐꯝ
 File: ꯐꯥꯏꯜ
 File_talk: ꯐꯥꯏꯜ ꯋꯥ ꯍꯥꯏꯐꯝ
 MediaWiki: ꯃꯦꯗꯤꯌꯥꯋꯤꯀꯤ
 MediaWiki_talk: ꯃꯦꯗꯤꯌꯥꯋꯤꯀꯤ ꯋꯥ ꯍꯥꯏꯐꯝ
 Template: ꯇꯦꯝꯄ꯭ꯂꯦꯠ
 Template_talk: ꯇꯦꯝꯄ꯭ꯂꯦꯠ ꯋꯥ ꯍꯥꯏꯐꯝ
 Help: ꯃꯇꯦꯡ
 Help_talk: ꯃꯇꯦꯡ ꯋꯥ ꯍꯥꯏꯐꯝ
 Category: ꯃꯆꯥꯈꯥꯏꯕ
 Category_talk: ꯃꯆꯥꯈꯥꯏꯕ ꯋꯥ ꯍꯥꯏꯐꯝ

--MF-W 19:02, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

  • User:Luwanglinux: What would the namespace "ꯑꯍꯦꯟꯕ ꯃꯃꯤꯡꯌꯥꯎꯐꯝꯁꯤꯡ" be called in English? Was there a discussion in the community about its creation? Also, what would the corresponding "talk" namespace be called? Also, what does the setting "ꯑꯍꯦꯟꯕ ꯁꯦꯝꯐꯝꯁꯤꯡ" mean? --MF-W 12:20, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
    • MF-W "ꯑꯍꯦꯟꯕ ꯃꯃꯤꯡꯌꯥꯎꯐꯝꯁꯤꯡ" This would mean a rough translation of the english word " more namespace" ..."more" means "ꯑꯍꯦꯟꯕ" or "ꯍꯦꯟꯅ" in Meitei language."space" can mean "ꯑꯍꯥꯡꯕ/ꯃꯐꯝ"(Ahangba/mafam) also.. .actually there are no exact similar words for certain english words both in meaning and uses so we are actually translating it to our best in the sense that the Meitei_project users can know easily the idea behind the word used... "talk" means "ꯋꯥꯉꯥꯡꯉꯨ"(Wa Ngang uu) used as a ""verb"" but as a ""noun"" it can be "ꯋꯥ ꯉꯥꯡꯕ" or "ꯋꯥꯉꯥꯡ" also "talk-place" would mean "ꯋꯥꯉꯥꯡꯐꯝ" here "ꯐꯝ" is short for "ꯃꯐꯝ" meaning "place" ..and the setting "ꯑꯍꯦꯟꯕ ꯁꯦꯝꯐꯝꯁꯤꯡ" mean "more settings" here the wordssuffix "ꯁꯤꯡ" in every Meitei word can be used to indicate plural numbers as I have mentioned "ꯑꯍꯦꯟꯕ" means "more"..finally the word "ꯁꯦꯝꯐꯝ" exact meaning is "factory"(place where things are made or repaired..in a polite way "ꯁꯦꯝꯒꯠꯐꯝ" read as (sem gat fam) can be used too-thanksLuwanglinux (talk) 13:34, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
      • I think there has been a misunderstanding. These fields in the template are not meant for translating the words "Additional namespaces" and "Additional settings", but for indicating that the wiki should have special namespaces. An example is that en.wikipedia has a namespace for "Portals". But you don't need to enter anything in this template if these special things are not needed for your wiki. Also, they can always still be added later. --MF-W 13:42, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
        • Ok the best way seems to be add it later..I have no problem with both option my intention was to complete the main settings required..ah one more thing will the Meitei-wiki logo be changeable or permanent once set-Luwanglinux (talk) 14:08, 24 January 2021 (UTC)'
  • Can this be the project logo
     
    Luwanglinux
    Luwanglinux (talk) 18:14, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
    • @Luwanglinux: No, because of the foundation:Visual_identity_guidelines. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 01:15, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
    • This time another logo
       
      rangets
      contributed by "user:@Rangets:Luwanglinux (talk) 10:07, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
      • rangets & Luwanglinux, this other logo is not acceptable either. First of all it has a wrong w:aspect ratio; it's supposed to be 27:31 (135x155px). Secondly it's not even a real SVG: it's just a PNG packaged in it. Just give me whatever is written in there in plain text form and I will do the text layout. --Artoria2e5 (talk) 21:59, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
        • Okay, the text is ꯋꯤꯀꯤꯄꯦꯗꯤꯌꯥ ꯃꯅꯤꯡꯇꯝꯕ ꯂꯧꯁꯤꯡꯒꯤ ꯄꯨꯀꯩ. Working on it. --Artoria2e5 (talk) 22:04, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
        • Done, see
           
          Artoria2e5
          . I am sticking to open-source fonts for copyright reasons, so I can only choose from Noto Sans Meetei Mayek and Eeyek. Eeyek seems to have a more "serif" stoke form, so there it is. I think some more manual editing is needed to connect the character baseline bar (ligature). --Artoria2e5 (talk) 22:31, 3 February 2021 (UTC) (Oh great, now I am finding Eeyek's kerning atrocious. Maybe I will change it again... --Artoria2e5 (talk) 22:42, 3 February 2021 (UTC))
@Artoria2e5: Thanks for everything and your work is cool.Luwanglinux (talk) 16:07, 4 February 2021 (UTC)