Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Inari Sami 2

submitted verification final decision

This proposal has been approved.
The Board of Trustees and language committee have deemed that there is sufficient grounds and community to create the new language project.

A committee member provided the following comment:

  • The community needs to develop an active test project; it must remain active until approval (automated statistics, recent changes). It is generally considered active if the analysis lists at least three active, not-grayed-out editors listed in the sections for the previous few months.
  • The community needs to complete required MediaWiki interface translations in that language (about localization, translatewiki, check completion).
  • The community needs to discuss and complete the settings table below:
What Value Example / Explanation
Proposal
Language code smn (SILGlottolog) A valid ISO 639-1 or 639-3 language code, like "fr", "de", "nso", ...
Language name Inari Sami Language name in English
Language name anarâškielâ Language name in your language. This will appear in the language list on Special:Preferences, in the interwiki sidebar on other wikis, ...
Language Wikidata item Q33462 - item has currently the following values:
Item about the language at Wikidata. It would normally include the Wikimedia language code, name of the language, etc. Please complete at Wikidata if needed.
Directionality no indication Is the language written from left to right (LTR) or from right to left (RTL)?
Links Links to previous requests, or references to external websites or documents.

Settings
Project name Wikipedia "Wikipedia" in your language
Project namespace Wikipedia usually the same as the project name
Project talk namespace Savâstâllâm Wikipediast "Wikipedia talk" (the discussion namespace of the project namespace)
Enable uploads no Default is "no". Preferably, files should be uploaded to Commons.
If you want, you can enable local file uploading, either by any user ("yes") or by administrators only ("admin").
Notes: (1) This setting can be changed afterwards. The setting can only be "yes" or "admin" at approval if the test creates an Exemption Doctrine Policy (EDP) first. (2) Files on Commons can be used on all Wikis. (3) Uploading fair-use images is not allowed on Commons (more info). (4) Localisation to your language may be insufficient on Commons.
Optional settings
Project logo File:Wikipedia-logo-v2-smn.svg This needs to be an SVG image (instructions for logo creation).
Default project timezone Europe/Helsinki "Continent/City", e.g. "Europe/Brussels" or "America/Mexico City" (see list of valid timezones)
Additional namespaces For example, a Wikisource would need "Page", "Page talk", "Index", "Index talk", "Author", "Author talk".
Additional settings the plural settings at CLDR and Unicode are incorrect for this language and need to be fixed. Anything else that should be set
submit Phabricator task. It will include everything automatically, except additional namespaces/settings. After creating the task, add a link to the comment.

Proposal edit

This already has a wikipedia but was closed for this reason:

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Inari is spoken in lappland with 300-400 speakers ( 2018 ) —Palmtree222 (talk) 13:26, 27 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]


I support the inari sami wikipedia. The language is being revived ( fromm 279 in 2008 to up to 400 in 2018 ) so it will have more editors and the language can survive.

Discussion edit

This does not have a closed Wikipedia. There was an old request that was closed; the Wikipedia was never opened. As per that old request, I will repeat the question about whether 300 speakers is really enough for a Wikipedia.--Prosfilaes (talk) 14:08, 16 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Inari actualy has 400 speakers due to new revival attempts also i will learn inari very soon and i can make many pages - palmtree222
Prosfilaes: for most languages, I would say no, 300–400 is more than likely not enough, but the Inari Saami community is highly productive and active online, the language is being used more and more in the media, by government agencies, etc. Not to mention they are motivated in creating an Inari Saami Wikipedia, translating the strings on MediaWiki, etc. I think that it will quickly bypass the Northern Saami Wikipedia in both quantity and quality. The quality is already there for a lot of articles. To the point that I've been using the Inari Saami incubator articles as the source text when creating articles into Northern Saami! I think this is a viable project and I have no qualms in recommending that this project be turned into a full-fledged Wikipedia of its own. -Yupik (talk) 14:48, 17 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  Support. The project currently developed is of quality, with a great concern for articles that have a real content, the care given to the overall presentation and the use of sober and efficient templates, as well as the mention of sources, categories, and the insertion of many links and interwikis. The only thing I cannot judge is the linguistic quality of the articles. Beautiful project. Nevatovol (talk) 21:22, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support for Nordic languages, 300 users are good enough, there are also languages which are no longer having L1 speakers e.g. Livonian got eligible. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 00:24, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  Support. I am one of the contributors to the smn wp. My Inari Saami knowledge is not good enough for active writing, but I have been (and will be) working with categorisation. The project is now approaching 1000 articles, many of them good. The basic interface has been translated, and there has been activity on the wp every day since we had two wp startup seminars in Inari. My suggestion is thus that the smn wp is created. Trondtr (talk) 12:08, 29 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

While still supporting the promotion to wp, I suggest we wait. We have had a discussion among the writers, and the conclusion is that we make smn wiki significantly better before going wp. We will return to the issue. Trondtr (talk) 10:15, 3 August 2020 (UTC).[reply]
Just note that the potential approval is discussing by langcom members: [1]. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 01:56, 1 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, we know. What actually happened was that we during August/September had the required discussions within the writer community, and then went to langcom again. We are now looking forward to seing the new wp. Trondtr (talk) 14:56, 9 October 2020 (UTC).[reply]