Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Alabama

submitted	verification	final decision

	This language has been verified as eligible. The language is eligible for a project, which means that the subdomain can be created once there is an active community and a localized interface, as described in the language proposal policy. You can discuss the creation of this language project on this page. Once the criteria are met, the language committee can proceed with the approval and will verify the test project content with a reliable neutral source, such as a professor or expert. If you think the criteria are met, but the project is still waiting for approval, feel free to notify the committee and ask them to consider its approval.

The community needs to develop an active test project; it must remain active until approval (automated statistics, recent changes). It is generally considered active if the analysis lists at least three active, not-grayed-out editors listed in the sections for the previous few months.
The community needs to complete required MediaWiki interface translations in that language (about localization, translatewiki, check completion).
The community needs to discuss and complete the settings table below:

What	Value	Example / Explanation

Proposal
Language code	akz (SIL, Glottolog)	A valid ISO 639-1 or 639-3 language code, like "fr", "de", "nso", ...
Language name	Alabama	Language name in English
Language name	Albaamo innaaɬiilka	Language name in your language. This will appear in the language list on Special:Preferences, in the interwiki sidebar on other wikis, ...
Language Wikidata item	Q1815020 - item has currently the following values: English label: Alabama native label (P1705): instance of (P31)/subclass of (P279): language, modern language / Muskogean Wikimedia language code (P424): akz writing system (P282): Latin script number of speakers, writers, or signers (P1098): 100	Item about the language at Wikidata. It would normally include the Wikimedia language code, name of the language, etc. Please complete at Wikidata if needed.
Directionality	no indication	Is the language written from left to right (LTR) or from right to left (RTL)?
Links		Links to previous requests, or references to external websites or documents.
Site URL	akz.wikipedia.org	langcode.wikiproject.org

Settings
Project name	Wikipedia	"Wikipedia" in your language
Project namespace		usually the same as the project name
Project talk namespace		"Wikipedia talk" (the discussion namespace of the project namespace)
Enable uploads	yes	Default is "no". Preferably, files should be uploaded to Commons. If you want, you can enable local file uploading, either by any user ("yes") or by administrators only ("admin"). Notes: (1) This setting can be changed afterwards. The setting can only be "yes" or "admin" at approval if the test creates an Exemption Doctrine Policy (EDP) first. (2) Files on Commons can be used on all Wikis. (3) Uploading fair-use images is not allowed on Commons (more info). (4) Localisation to your language may be insufficient on Commons.
Optional settings
Project logo		This needs to be an SVG image (instructions for logo creation).
Default project timezone		"Continent/City", e.g. "Europe/Brussels" or "America/Mexico City" (see list of valid timezones)
Additional namespaces		For example, a Wikisource would need "Page", "Page talk", "Index", "Index talk", "Author", "Author talk".
Additional settings		Anything else that should be set
Once settings are finalized, a committee member will submit a Phabricator task requesting creation of the wiki. (This will include everything automatically, except the additional namespaces/settings.) After the task is created, it should be linked to in a comment under "final decision" above.

Proposal

Alabama is a Native American language, spoken by the Alabama-Coushatta tribe of Texas. It is a Muskogean language, and is believed to have been related to the Muklasa and Tuskegee languages, which are no longer extant. Alabama is closely related to Koasati and distantly to Hitchiti, Chickasaw and Choctaw. Also known as Alibamu. Though there are only 100 monolingual natives, there are many schools teaching it. I can't give approxamate number, but it are least 2,000 learning people.

--Ulohnanne 14:26, 16 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

Statistics

Betawiki: ~250/500, 1 translator, source: [1]
Incubator: ~2600 pages, ~3100 edits, 2-3 editors, source: [2]

Arguments in favour

I am in favor because it can not only help to preserve the language, but it can also be usefull for people studying the language and people with only knowledge of Alabama and little knowledge of other linguamatica.

~~--Ulohnanne 14:26, 16 September 2008 (UTC)~~[reply]

Though the number of natives might be a little at the low side, an interested user has already started some pages and has translated about one-fifth of the most used messages. I'm in favour of this project. Also, the page on Alabama on en.wiki is rather small. This project can give us a better view of the language. --OosWesThoesBes 05:13, 17 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support: An expert speaker of Alabama is willing to contribute to this project in the long-term, hence this project has the potential to flourish like the other Native American language Wikipedia editions such as Cherokee, Seri, Nahuatl, and Guarani etc. Therefore the Alabama language ought to be given the opportunity and priviledge to have its own language edition of Wikipedia. --Jose77 21:32, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support! - El tiu Cancho 12:27, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Support!! Wikipedia ini mesti dicipta.. This I am write in Malay.. Cepatlah cipta wikipedia bahasa alabama.--Md. Farhan 09:55, 25 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support Strong Support: Lot of articles (many of them are good), language is, so why not?=)Andrijko Z. 15:20, 24 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Good articles. Support. --Midnight Green 07:04, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support this is a critically endangered language that is 56% translated which is an excellent start.Luciferwildcat (talk) 03:13, 31 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Yaama! I gonna work here Tiskòmma (talk) 17:23, 28 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Arguments against

Nowadays, my experience concerning wikipedias in native northamerican languages is very bad: no active projects, no active community, no interest. Alabama language has only a few of potential speakers and, as the language is not teached, young people don't know it. However, I will change my oppinion if there is an higher number of people interested in contribute to this project. --Norrin strange 07:31, 17 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know if here people normally refute that one has said? I will, however. Where did you get the information of not teached? The language is taught at some schools and many parents still give the language to their children. I think Alabama Wikipedia will then be the first successful wikipedia of all wikipedias.

~~--Ulohnanne 15:57, 17 September 2008 (UTC)~~[reply]

incubator:Special:PrefixIndex/Wp/akz doesn't look particulary inspiring. Also, currently there is only one user willing to contribute, which is not even remotely enough. 3-4 is the very minimum, and even it does not guarantee that the project will develop, as people leave sometimes. MaxSem^{(Han shot first!)} 07:57, 17 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
~~The project now is three day old. You can't expect it then to be having 100 pages already! Also this is for number of users.~~

~~--Ulohnanne 15:57, 17 September 2008 (UTC)~~[reply]
But there are also projects which first were inactive and later on grew like a tree, that can't be denied either. --OosWesThoesBes 17:47, 17 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The request is eligible, the fact that other North American Wikipedias are effectively dead, does not have any impact on our wish to support the people who support their language by creating free resources. Thanks, GerardM 07:23, 28 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
a stillborn project :( as Ulohnanne left while he was the only contributor with a good knowledge of the language. Potential growth of the language left with him. --Jagwar ^{交談 homewiki} 06:23, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose due to the lack of potential contributors. Rubbish computer (Talk: Contribs) 14:09, 21 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Other discussion

I hope we can have the incubator checked by an expert in this language before it is formally approved. Although I don't have any personal expertise in the language, I find it very suspicious that the writers' English doesn't seem to be too good - almost any speaker of this language will have very good English proficiency. --149.169.85.117 22:42, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

16 years later but I agree. I'm currently with a group of linguists working on this language, and it's incredibly clear that none of the articles were written by someone with a strong grasp of the language beyond just looking up words in a dictionary. Several suspect issues: words are written with their direct translation, and the grammar is just utterly wrong. Notluckylinguist (talk) 01:09, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Localisation update

Currently 59.46% of the most used MediaWiki messages have been localised. Localisation of these messages is a requirement before your request is finally assessed. This is the recent localisation activity for your language. Thanks, GerardM 11:38, 12 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Currently 50.85% of the most used MediaWiki messages have been localised. Localisation of these messages is a requirement before your request is finally assessed. This is the recent localisation activity for your language. When you add to the localisations, you are likely to see them the next day at the Incubator. Thanks, GerardM 09:17, 5 October 2009