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I want to cantact the Wikimedia foundation.
How to contact? I can't find the foundation's web page.
Korean Wikipedia Admins say that All non-GFDL texts can not be quoted, because Korean Wikipedia do not approve the fair use.
I can not quote anything from All non-GFDL texts?
What is the foundation's quotation policy?
Why the foundation makes the wikiquote korean?
I think I can quote anything from All non-GFDL texts.
I think I can quote anything from All non-GFDL texts in en-wikipedia, ko-wikipedia, ja-wikibooks, zh-wikiquote, etc.
I am right? or wrong?
Korean Wikipedia Admins are right? or wrong? -- WonRyong (talk) 00:59, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- User:Daniel say foundation:Resolution:Licensing_policy.
- But it rules only for media file upload. not for text quotation.
- For example, "Exemption Doctrine Policy is A project-specific policy...that permits the upload of copyrighted materials..."
- What is clear policy for text quotation? -- WonRyong 01:36, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
What is the foundation's quotation policy clause that prohibit to quote from All non-GFDL texts?
If the foundation's policy is not exist, Berne Convention for the Protection of Literary and Artistic Works is effective.
Berne_Convention_for_the_Protection_of_Literary_and_Artistic_Works
Article 10
(1) It shall be permissible to make quotations from a work which has already been lawfully made available to the public, provided that their making is compatible with fair practice, and their extent does not exceed that justified by the purpose, including quotations from newspaper articles and periodicals in the form of press summaries.
(2) It shall be a matter for legislation in the countries of the Union, and for special agreements existing or to be concluded between them, to permit the utilization, to the extent justified by the purpose, of literary or artistic works by way of illustration in publications, broadcasts or sound or visual recordings for teaching, provided such utilization is compatible with fair practice.
(3) Where use is made of works in accordance with the preceding paragraphs of this Article, mention shall be made of the source, and of the name of the author if it appears thereon.
The foundation's policy is exist? or not? -- WonRyong 01:47, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
And also Copyright_Act_of_South_Korea is effective to korean wikipedia.
Copyright Act of South Korea
Article 28 (Quotations from Works Made Public) It shall be permissible to make quotations from a work already being made public provided that they are within a reasonable limit for news reporting, criticism, education and research, etc. and compatible with fair practice.
What is the foundation's policy clause that prohibit qoutation from non-GFDL texts? -- WonRyong 01:52, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Many non-GFDL or GFDL or Public Doamain text quotaions are exist in ko-wiki.
examples link:
http://ko.wikipedia.org/wiki/특수기능:가리키는문서/틀:인용문2
( en-link is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Cquote2 )
Usually, All Korean admins do not disscuss for deletion, do not delete it, etc.
Many non-GFDL or GFDL or Public Doamain text quotaions was free.
But now, Korean Wikipedia Admins say that All non-GFDL texts can not be quoted, because Korean Wikipedia do not approve the fair use.
And then,
What is the foundation's quotation policy clause that prohibit to quote from All non-GFDL texts?
Korean community have no policy. -- WonRyong 02:05, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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It is non-GFDL quotation.
In english wikipedia, many quotation marked text, saying is non-GFDL quotation.
What is the policy clasue?
Do you have the policy clasue only for english wikipedia?
Korean wikipedia have no policy. and how do we do?
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Top_Gun
- That son of a bitch cut me off!
- I think I'll go embarrass myself with Goose
- You don't have time to think up there. If you think, you're dead.
- Too close for missiles, I'm switching to guns.
- Talk to me Goose!
- [to Cougar and Merlin while flying alongside them] Any of you boys seen an aircraft carrier around here?
- I'll hit the brakes, he'll fly right by.
- Come on lock up baby. Lock up baby. Lock up. I got him locked!
- Maverick is supersonic. I'll be there in thirty seconds.
It is all non-GFDL quotation.
In english wikiquote, many quotation marked text, saying is non-GFDL quotation.
What is the policy clasue?
Do you have the policy clasue only for english wikiquote?
Also, in Korean wikiquote, many quotation marked text, saying is non-GFDL quotation.
Korean wikiquote have no policy. and how do we do? -- WonRyong 02:29, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Many non-GFDL or GFDL or Public Doamain text quotaions are exist in ko-wiki.
- Usually, All Korean admins and users did not disscuss for deletion, did not delete it, etc.
- But now, suddenly, Korean Wikipedia Admins say that All non-GFDL texts quotation is prohibited.
- So, I ask. "What is the policy cluase? I don't see it."
- Korean community have no policy.
- So, I ask to the foundation. "What is the policy cluase?" -- WonRyong 02:15, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
According to wikimedia:Resolution:Licensing policy,
"1. All projects are expected to host only content which is under a Free Content License, or which is otherwise free as recognized by the 'Definition of Free Cultural Works' as referenced above.",
EDP is "A project-specific policy, in accordance with United States law and the law of countries where the project content is predominantly accessed (if any), that recognizes the limitations of copyright law (including case law) as applicable to the project, and permits the upload of copyrighted materials that can be legally used in the context of the project, regardless of their licensing status. Examples include: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Non-free_content and http://pl.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Dozwolony_u%C5%BCytek"
Korean Wikipedia didn't approve non-free quotation. So non-free quotation is still prohibited.--Kwj2772 08:23, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Why? You have a policy or guideline clause? I don't see it. Risriction freedom needs a clear law clause. -- WonRyong 11:37, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
For the projects which currently do not have an EDP in place, the following action shall be taken:
- As of March 23, 2007, any newly uploaded files under an unacceptable license shall be deleted.
- The Foundation resolves to assist all project communities who wish to develop an EDP with their process of developing it.
- By March 23, 2008, all existing files under an unacceptable license as per the above must either be accepted under an EDP, or shall be deleted.
Policy rules that text shall be deleted? You can see the paragraph "text shall be deleted" in that policy? That policy only rules "files shall be deleted" -- WonRyong 11:45, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hi. I am neither a lawyer nor a Foundation trustee/officer, but here are my comments. Japanese Wikipedia had discussions on this topic from time to time, and my comments are largely based on that.
I think that the Wikimedia Foundation does not prohibit quoting of copyrighted text that is done in a legal manner. The existence of wikiquote projects that accept fair use attests that, I guess. Is it possible to quote a text in a GFDL'd document without violating Korean law? I think you need to ask a Korean lawyer who knows copyright and free license.
But if Korean Wikipedia wants to prohibit any quoting, the Foundation might accept that position because each Wikipedia is more or less a self-governing project, and the Foundation most of the time respects the project community's decision.
In case it is of your interest, there were discussions like Do_fair_use_images_violate_the_GFDL? here in the past as well.