Program Capacity and Learning/Office Hours
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Program Capacity and Learning
Office Hours
The newly integrated Program Capacity and Learning team discussed with the community about its roadmap, proposed projects, focus areas and criteria to prioritize work. In this page, you can watch the online meet up where the conversation took place, review the chat transcript and questions, and go through the presentation shared.
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Recorded conversation.
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Slides shared during Office Hours.
Office Hours Hangout on Air - Chat |
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Floor Koudijs |
8:05 AM |
Hi Daria! |
Daria Cybulska |
8:05 AM |
How early is it in US?? |
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WMF |
8:07 AM |
i'ts 8:07 |
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Floor Koudijs |
8:08 AM |
Hi Andrew, Cornelius, Ivan! |
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Daria Cybulska |
8:08 AM |
Nice and early |
Ivan Martínez |
8:08 AM |
Hi Floor |
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Cornelius Kibelka |
8:08 AM |
Hi Floor! |
Andrew Lih |
8:08 AM |
Hi all! |
Floor Koudijs |
8:08 AM |
Thanks for joining us here! |
Hi 上官良治. |
Andrew Lih |
8:10 AM |
+1 more dashboard would be great |
上官良治 |
8:10 AM |
Hi, Floor. This is Liang from Taiwan. |
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Floor Koudijs |
8:11 AM |
Thought so. Great to see you here Liang. |
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Floor Koudijs |
8:11 AM |
And hi, Stuart and Vassia! |
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Stuart Prior |
8:11 AM |
Hello |
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上官良治 |
8:12 AM |
Education dashboard is so exciting for professors here in Taiwan. |
vassia atanassova |
8:12 AM |
Hi! I'm happy I could make it |
Andrew Lih |
8:12 AM |
I just did an experiment with students and ORES that was really quite successful. Would be great to build in more ORES/Revscore tools into Dashboard |
Floor Koudijs |
8:14 AM |
It would be Andrew! I'm trying to aim for a doable and attainable goal for the dashboard first - but would also love to see further improvements! It would be great to add that to the wish list for later development. |
Feel free to add / discuss your suggestion here: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/education-program-dashboard/ |
Ivan Martínez |
8:16 AM |
A few question, you mentioned some examples the last year about mentoring to GLAM leaders. Do you have some examples? |
Ok |
Stuart Prior |
8:18 AM |
Personalised reengagement is really important for us I think at WMUK, as reengaging dormant community members is important to us. |
Any particular models or examples of this? |
Andrew Lih |
8:19 AM |
Ivan, here with Wikimedia DC, we're also working on materials to help GLAM operations. These posters are what we're replicating for conferences and edit-a-thons |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikipediaSpace#Posters |
Example of what we did at National Archives |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:WikipediaSpace-exhibit-launch-hallway.JPG |
Ivan Martínez |
8:20 AM |
Thanks Andrew! |
上官良治 |
8:20 AM |
Is there a link of this slide? |
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Cornelius Kibelka |
8:21 AM |
It's not a question, but more a concern: It's nice to see that WMF wants to work / support with the Affiliates on their GLAM initiatives. It would be great if you could do that in the partnership-like way. Affiliates have long-year experiences with GLAMs, so WMF shouldn't re-invent the wheel, but more act as facilitator among affiliates |
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8:21 AM |
Cornelius, you go next. Feel free to unmute! |
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Floor Koudijs |
8:22 AM |
Cornelius, excellent comment. That is exactly how we are approaching it. We see ourselves as facilitators. |
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上官良治 |
8:22 AM |
@Ivan, I know Beat Esterman from Switzerland is also doing a global survey on OpenGLAM, which is nice for a starting point too I think https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/OpenGLAM_Benchmark_Survey/Participating_countries |
Stuart Prior |
8:22 AM |
Sorry, lost connection there... |
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Cornelius Kibelka |
8:23 AM |
Thanks, @Floor, that's good to hear |
WMF |
8:23 AM |
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Program_Capacity_and_Learning_Roadmap_-_Office_Hours_Feb_16.pdf |
slides! |
上官良治 |
8:23 AM |
thank you! |
WMF |
8:24 AM |
Meta link: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Program_Capacity_and_Learning |
Floor Koudijs |
8:26 AM |
Note to all here that comments in the chat here are not captured on the recorded hangout. So if you'd like to ask you question live, make sure to unmute or raise your hand. |
上官良治 |
8:26 AM |
A question for Floor, Anna was doing a historic data of education programs in a lot of countries. Will you design the dashboard according with the result of those data? |
Floor Koudijs |
8:27 AM |
Let me answer that question live when Jaime is done. |
Stuart Prior |
8:28 AM |
@Ivan, just a comment on GLAM,: tools that work are great, but at WMUK we're also trying to bring all of our WiRs together to work on the methodology of using Wikidata + GLAMs (this is feeding back into Wikidata's Data Partnerships) and we will hopefully be able to document this to provide models for others. |
Cornelius Kibelka |
8:28 AM |
There is another question: You see yourself and the re-organising of your team(s) aligned with the new strategy process of the WMF. As I suppose you've been heavily involved in designing these approaches, can you answer me what "Align efforts between our affiliate organizations and the Wikimedia Foundation to increase local language and community coverage on key initiatives." means? |
(I know, parts of this approach are covered by other CE teams, but parts also by your team) |
How do you want to "align"? And what are "key initiatives"? |
Ivan Martínez |
8:31 AM |
Stuart, that's very interesting to document. If you have some links about this will be nice to review. |
上官良治 |
8:33 AM |
Thank you, Floor. Sounds like a comparison between the before dashboard and after dashboard to me. |
Floor Koudijs |
8:33 AM |
Exactly. Up until now, and then looking toward the future with better tech tools. |
上官良治 |
8:34 AM |
Now I learn better of the evidence based approach now, haha. |
Stuart Prior |
8:34 AM |
Ivan, yes, our initial idea is to prevent us going back to square 1 with every new WiR and maintain the knowledge. But also, a WiR talking to another WiR at say, a Library, will face similar challenges so it's the best place to get advice from other WiRs and also with the input of experienced Wikidatians/WikiSourcians etc |
Floor Koudijs |
8:35 AM |
This is great to hear Stuart, and makes total sense. |
Stuart Prior |
8:36 AM |
Floor Koudijs |
8:37 AM |
Once you have some documentation, we'd love to see that as well, Stuart. It would be great to share that out to the wider community as well. |
Cornelius Kibelka |
8:38 AM |
Thank you, Rosemary, for clarifying! |
Stuart Prior |
8:40 AM |
Floor, yes at the moment we're just facilitating conversations between our WiRs and also a few select Wikidatians. |
But we'd aim to have some sort of "summit" |
And John at UNESCO is doing some excellent work with documenting Wikidata instructions for non-technical people (We call them Muggles). |
Floor Koudijs |
8:43 AM |
Stuart Prior |
8:43 AM |
Thanks!! Will feed back on MEta |
Cornelius Kibelka |
8:43 AM |
thank you! |
上官良治 |
8:43 AM |
thank you! |
Ivan Martínez |
8:43 AM |
Thanks |
Floor Koudijs |
8:43 AM |
Thanks all! |
vassia atanassova |
8:43 AM |
Thank you! |
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Nabin Sapkota |
8:43 AM |
Thanks a bunch |
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8:44 AM |
thank you all for joining! |
Questions posted through the Q&A App |
Ad Huikeshoven |
Who are current global partners? |
Ad Huikeshoven |
What is your view on "community management"? |
Sydney Poore |
What is the current status of the Wiki Ed Dashboard for use outside of Education Programs. For more general events? |
Ad Huikeshoven |
You mentioned "roadmap"? Do you have a link to that on meta? |
Ad Huikeshoven |
Your teams have been very involved with "evaluation" in the past, specifically of programs by chapters. Am I correct your shifting your focus from evaluation to other activities? |
Ad Huikeshoven |
Regarding definition of community management, for example http://thecommunitymanager.com/2014/01/31/the-definition-of-community-management/ |
Sydney Poore |
Is the plan to have Dashboard maintained d enhanced under PC&L? |
Sydney Poore |
As I understand it, in the past your team helped provide support for FDC and maybe other community grant committees, will you continue to do this work? Or has this been moved to CR? |