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@Bluerasberry, happy to chat about this, if you're still interested czar 02:09, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

@Czar: I am less interested. Nowadays there are easier, more attractive targets to get content than individuals seeking small amounts of funding through Kickstarter. Also Kickstarter as an organization regularly hosts Wikipedia meetups in NYC so there is a communication channel open. They have a few projects which use CC licenses and Creative Commons the organization is doing more outreach to convince more people to use its licenses, so they are better at this than the Wikipedia community needs to be. All that said - if you have an idea, then sure, I would talk. Email me for voice / video chat or otherwise suggest a channel. Blue Rasberry (talk) 02:49, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

Can you clarify what your idea is about?Edit

I have two reactions to Kickstarter, and it is hard to see how either of them relate to Wikipedia (or to improving your idea):

(1) There is no accountability within Kickstarter. Since there are no success criteria from the Kickstarter side, projects can too easily go off course, and even after the project has become lost, it is hard to say what went wrong. I don't think Wikipedia should go in such a direction, but maybe you can clarify how your idea is different?

(2) I actually suggested a form of article sponsorship for Wikipedia that could be regarded as a kind of crowdfunding, but I was persuaded that that level of accountability is not really appropriate within Wikipedia, even on a cost-recovery basis. Shanen (talk) 09:49, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

  • @Shanen: Look at Set Chopin Free. Someone created new performances of public domain music then applied Wikimedia compatible Creative Commons licenses to them. The only thing for the Wiki community to do is copy the files to Commons in the end and integrate them into Wikipedia articles.
Kickstarter success rates or criteria has no bearing over whether the Wiki community chooses to host files with free licenses.
I am saying that when an organization has a history of putting out free content of use to Wikimedia projects then we should be ready to receive that. As it turned out, I do not think Kickstarter ever routinely began to produce free content, and projects like this Chopin one are unusual. There are some things but probably not enough to justify establishing a special workflow.
I never commented in any way about the concept of crowdfunding and have no reply to your 2nd point. This idea is unrelated to any funding scheme. Blue Rasberry (talk) 13:42, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
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