Grants talk:IdeaLab/Anti defamation and harassing biographies of living people

Latest comment: 7 years ago by KATMAKROFAN in topic Yet another bad idea

Wikipedia is not censored


Wikipedia is not censored. This is official policy. We have stringent policies for biographies of living persons. If someone has had a biographical page up on Wikipedia for seven years that they feel reflects badly on them, and have been fighting with Wikipedia over it, it means reality reflects badly on them. Information in such biographies has to be sourced reliably. Titanium Dragon (talk) 20:48, 4 June 2016 (UTC)Reply


  • WP has literally millions of biographies; the reality is that getting permission from each and every living article subject is a practical impossibility. You might consider reversing your suggestion -- that is, if the subject of an article objects to some or all of its content, a clear mechanism should be in place to consider his or her objection in a timely manner. DoctorJoeE (talk) 13:46, 3 June 2016 (UTC)Reply
  • But... that's censorship. I don't think Kim Jong-un should be able to request the removal of the Human rights violations section, for example. Xbony2 (talk) 21:10, 4 June 2016 (UTC)Reply
  • "I think no biography of a living person should be able to be created or modified with out the permission of the subject." This is a very bad idea and goes against common sense and established practice. If this were implemented, it would remove any expectation of objectivity from biographical articles, since the biographee will be able to dictate what information about him is made public. For example, a candidate for a political office could demand redaction of his biography to censor factually correct, but unfortunate information about him (e.g. involvement in corruption). The rules on notability, neutrality and conflicts of interest should give sufficient ammunition to stop "my neighbor is an asshole" type of articles. --Doveofsymplegades (talk) 21:28, 5 June 2016 (UTC)Reply
  • As this currently stands, this proposal is unreasonable. DoctorJoeE is right that seeking permission for every page is going to be functionally impossible. I'd also like to caution that seeking permission also gives the person a large amount of power over the article, as they can then threaten to revoke permission if the page contains information that they find unflattering. This would basically be seen as censorship and Wikipedia would be eaten alive in the press for this. Now there is something to be said for giving people more power to request the deletion of their own pages, but there's already some consideration for this in the various Wikipedias and in most cases the pages are removed unless the person is overwhelmingly notable and that notability would supercede the person's request for article deletion. Tokyogirl79 (talk) 06:11, 7 June 2016 (UTC)Reply
  • Now in the case of the specific article in question (which I won't name here) I would highly, HIGHLY recommend that this individual contact Wikipedia to request that the page be removed. This is no guarantee that it will be removed, but more weight is given when there's a confirmed request for page removal. There was mention at the AfD that the person wanted it gone, but not that they'd contacted Wikipedia. Again, this would not guarantee page removal at this point but it would add a little extra oomph. Tokyogirl79 (talk) 06:21, 7 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

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Yet another bad idea


Wikipedia is not censored. Use the "attack page" speedy criterion on your friend's article. KATMAKROFAN (talk) 00:26, 29 December 2016 (UTC)Reply

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