[2008-06-25 13:27:57] * kibble takes out the gavel
[2008-06-25 13:30:38] <Danny_B> let the <del>mortal kombat</del> meeting begin
[2008-06-25 13:33:44] * kibble bangs seanw's gavel
[2008-06-25 13:33:45] <kibble> * Users on #wikimedia-cpg: HOTR brianmc Az1568 Snow__White2 kibble NonvocalScream SB_Johnny CraigSpurrier_aw Danny_B Martinp23 Az1568_ guillom unilinky @ChanServ
[2008-06-25 13:33:55] <kibble> Agenda: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communication_Projects_Group/Meetings/2008-06-25/Agenda
[2008-06-25 13:34:02] <brianmc> now I'm here
[2008-06-25 13:34:07] * kibble waits for a wave from people :-)
[2008-06-25 13:34:16] * Az1568 waves
[2008-06-25 13:34:26] <brianmc> with music... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyHlmPYwGXc
[2008-06-25 13:34:36] <HOTR> waves ... is here and back for a few minutes
[2008-06-25 13:35:19] <kibble> okay, first item "Make better use of mailing list"
[2008-06-25 13:35:40] <kibble> we don't need to do everything at meetings :-) if you guys see something that you would like to share or need us to work on, we can discuss it on the mailing list
[2008-06-25 13:35:57] <kibble> it seems people are busy... so maybe they'll respond better if they can just respond to what's sent to their box/
[2008-06-25 13:36:14] <kibble> comments? :-)
[2008-06-25 13:36:16] <HOTR> kibble: True enough
[2008-06-25 13:36:46] <HOTR> I think it's important to eat our own dog food here. So, let's try and discuss some things on the mailing list too. :)
[2008-06-25 13:36:56] <kibble> lol
[2008-06-25 13:36:58] <kibble> that was not really a topic for discussion, just somethign to throw out there ;-) so unless anyone has anything else to add... we can move to HOTR's (?) addition, "JA project which is in hibernation"
[2008-06-25 13:37:17] <HOTR> ie ... how to run CPG, when to have meetings (or if we need one this "Cycle", etc
[2008-06-25 13:38:00] * HOTR waits for comments for a sec
[2008-06-25 13:38:23] <HOTR> ok
[2008-06-25 13:38:57] <HOTR> So, the JA project was an effort that Bastique started to liase better with members of the JA community.
[2008-06-25 13:39:20] <HOTR> I was a project manager on this. We got some good communication for a bit, and now it's layed down a little.
[2008-06-25 13:39:22] <brianmc> and presumably to get them involved in comms work
[2008-06-25 13:39:45] <kibble> brianmc, well, they're just "out there"
[2008-06-25 13:39:51] <HOTR> Yes.... it seems they aren't involved much in Meta or general stuff.
[2008-06-25 13:39:57] <kibble> they're not really involved in the foundaiton and we have language barriers
[2008-06-25 13:40:07] <kibble> so we want to know who they are and take the initiative :-) (or wanted)
[2008-06-25 13:41:54] * kibble looks at HOTR ;-)
[2008-06-25 13:42:40] <HOTR> Well, Bastique had some contacts, and one of them attended a few CPG sessions
[2008-06-25 13:43:07] <HOTR> Does anyone know if Cary is around somewhere?
[2008-06-25 13:43:11] <kibble> he's at lunch
[2008-06-25 13:43:16] <Az1568> yeah...
[2008-06-25 13:43:16] <kibble> unfortunately
[2008-06-25 13:43:21] <HOTR> :S
[2008-06-25 13:43:29] <HOTR> Ok, so, two things.
[2008-06-25 13:43:45] <HOTR> One, I think it would be valuable to continue that project.
[2008-06-25 13:43:57] * kibble too
[2008-06-25 13:44:24] <HOTR> Second, I think it's important that CPG find some "important" stuff to do, and get a few things done.
[2008-06-25 13:44:32] <kibble> yeah :-)
[2008-06-25 13:45:27] -->| Ziko (firstname.lastname@example.org) has joined #wikimedia-cpg
[2008-06-25 13:45:53] <HOTR> I have a few things I'd personally like to see ...
[2008-06-25 13:46:09] * kibble waves Ziko
[2008-06-25 13:46:12] <HOTR> but we have to pick items that the group wants to do
[2008-06-25 13:46:29] <Ziko> Sorry for being late, I am German :-)
[2008-06-25 13:46:30] <kibble> HOTR, we can probably discuss that on the mailing list :-) (plugging my item in here :P )
[2008-06-25 13:46:34] <kibble> lol
[2008-06-25 13:48:14] <HOTR> kibble: :)
[2008-06-25 13:48:40] <Ziko> So, what's up Docs, which TOP are we discussing?
[2008-06-25 13:48:41] <HOTR> Well, I'll mention what I think should be the raison d'etre (if I'm using that right) for CPG....
[2008-06-25 13:48:54] <HOTR> Inter wiki communications
[2008-06-25 13:49:56] <kibble> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communication_Projects_Group/Projects
[2008-06-25 13:50:05] <kibble> for those who don't know, JA is on there :P (looks at Danny_B )
[2008-06-25 13:50:35] <Danny_B> :-P
[2008-06-25 13:51:10] <kibble> HOTR, anything else to add to this topic?
[2008-06-25 13:51:47] <HOTR> kibble: Nope. Maybe we can ask Cary to speak to it, either when he comes back from lunch or on the mailing list. :)
[2008-06-25 13:51:54] <kibble> :-)
[2008-06-25 13:51:57] <kibble> mailing list sounds good :-)
[2008-06-25 13:51:59] <kibble> since Jay's not here, do we still want to talk about "Wikimedia for the press (esp promote reuse of Wikinews content)." with brianmc?
[2008-06-25 13:52:16] <brianmc> I think it's a waste without someone from staff
[2008-06-25 13:52:47] <kibble> okay
[2008-06-25 13:53:05] <kibble> az1568, do we still want to talk about Blog posts without Jay?
[2008-06-25 13:53:22] <Ziko> Does anyone wants to say about "possible things" for Wikimania?
[2008-06-25 13:53:38] <kibble> that's the same as what we were referring to above :-)
[2008-06-25 13:53:43] <kibble> jay:
[2008-06-25 13:53:43] <kibble> sorry man, I'm out of and right into another meeting
[2008-06-25 13:53:47] <kibble> so. :-)
[2008-06-25 13:53:59] <kibble> jay:
[2008-06-25 13:53:59] <kibble> send my apologies - next time
[2008-06-25 13:54:45] <HOTR> Damn meeting gnomes :P
[2008-06-25 13:54:46] <Az1568> hmm...we could discuss some ideas/brainstorm.
[2008-06-25 13:54:48] <Danny_B> possible things for wikimania - try to gain some more money to bring more scholarship applicants ;-)
[2008-06-25 13:54:54] <kibble> :P
[2008-06-25 13:55:00] <Az1568> kibble: you have a few right? :P
[2008-06-25 13:55:16] <kibble> az1568, but since we don't even know if we're goign to do it yet... it might be premature
[2008-06-25 13:55:33] <kibble> why don't we just move onto Ziko's item? :-) Starter kit for small / new communities
[2008-06-25 13:55:45] * Az1568 nods :)
[2008-06-25 13:57:01] <Ziko> I thought that it is difficult for a small Wikipedia (even if somewhat older) to start
[2008-06-25 13:57:24] <Ziko> For example, it would be to much to translate all en.WP help pages.
[2008-06-25 13:57:44] <Ziko> A small and simple regulatorium should be sufficient in the begin.
[2008-06-25 13:58:01] <Ziko> and, of course, it would be useful if there were pr materials they could simply translate
[2008-06-25 13:58:07] * kibble nods
[2008-06-25 13:58:34] <Ziko> in black and white, simply to print and copy
[2008-06-25 13:58:41] <Ziko> simple
[2008-06-25 13:59:20] <kibble> maybe we might want to collaborate with incubator on this
[2008-06-25 13:59:28] * kibble looks at Danny_B
[2008-06-25 14:00:28] * Danny_B bounces between this meeting and wikimedia cz meeting
[2008-06-25 14:00:31] <kibble> :-)
[2008-06-25 14:00:33] <Danny_B> let me read the log
[2008-06-25 14:00:39] |<-- guillom has left freenode ("<cary> So where is this foundation-l thread where people are editing my job?")
[2008-06-25 14:00:48] <kibble> just look at the recent part where we mention Ziko
[2008-06-25 14:01:00] <Danny_B> yeah
[2008-06-25 14:02:22] <Danny_B> i've actually started to discuss with brion some issues about incubator, so i'll keep this in mind as well. there's bugzilla request to allow crosswiki transcluding of pages (like images are shared on commons)
[2008-06-25 14:03:31] <Ziko> I have in mind a kind of manual for the newbies and small ones
[2008-06-25 14:06:19] <kibble> Ziko, do you want to start on this? write up a page on Meta (could be in userspace) with links to important pages?
[2008-06-25 14:06:29] <Ziko> In general, a guide for wikimedia public relations would be useful
[2008-06-25 14:06:40] <Ziko> yes, I could start that
[2008-06-25 14:07:09] <kibble> okay, just send a post to the list when you've got some stuff worked on
[2008-06-25 14:07:14] <kibble> anything else to add?
[2008-06-25 14:07:17] * kibble has to go pack :-)
[2008-06-25 14:08:28] <kibble> nothing else?
[2008-06-25 14:08:36] * kibble bangs gavel and puts it back on seanw's desk