Note: Hours are in CEST 22:31:15 <seanw> [20:30:20] [ cary-office] [ LeBron ] [ newmanbe ] [ seanw ] [ Wiki_Blue ] 22:31:18 <seanw> [20:30:20] [ Cbrown1023 ] [ loco085 ] [ Platonides] [ ST47 ] [ WM-Thunderhead] 22:31:21 <seanw> So, welcome tot he meeting everytone. 22:31:26 <newmanbe> Boo. 22:31:28 <cary-office> ------------- start of meeting above-------------- 22:31:29 <loco085> are there a party here? 22:31:30 <Cbrown1023> (i.e. logging starts here) 22:31:30 * WM-Thunderhead waves 22:31:38 <seanw> cary-office, noooo by gavel is the indicator :P 22:31:38 <ST47> or does it start here? 22:31:41 <Wiki_Blue> :) 22:31:47 * ST47 points at the gavel 22:31:47 <seanw> Hosted by seanw and his lovely assistane Sandy :O 22:31:51 <seanw> So. 22:31:51 <Platonides> better start it below :) 22:31:52 <Cbrown1023> O_O 22:31:54 * Wiki_Blue plays latin music 22:32:01 <Cbrown1023> hehe 22:32:01 <Wiki_Blue> hold on cary and i are being called 22:32:02 <seanw> First item on the agenda is the projects system. 22:32:03 <Wiki_Blue> continue though 22:32:07 <seanw> Is it working? 22:32:31 <WM-Thunderhead> It's more organized, but we do need to migrate a few to this system 22:32:48 <cary-office> seanw: If I'm doing the logs, I need something I can see 22:33:08 <seanw> cary-office, np. 22:33:20 <seanw> Okay - who is williong to do that transfer? 22:33:51 <cary-office> elaborate 22:34:20 * brianmc has joined #wikimedia-cpg 22:34:27 <Cbrown1023> brianmc: you're late ;-) 22:34:28 <seanw> cary-office, we need the old projects organisiong 22:34:33 <seanw> Templating and categorising. 22:34:41 <WM-Thunderhead> cary-office: i'm working on a commons licensing presentation for you 22:35:00 <cary-office> WM-Thunderhead: great :) 22:35:00 <Wiki_Blue> well, if no one working on old projects, is it necessary? 22:35:07 <brianmc> I have a woman opposite me who won't stop talking. I am yping this without looking at the keyboard 22:35:08 <cary-office> WM-Thunderhead: Read Johntex's note on commons-l 22:35:09 <loco085> hi brianmc :) 22:35:38 * WM-Thunderhead opens another tab 22:35:42 <seanw> Wiki_Blue, no, I guess not - but this is another issue 22:35:52 <seanw> What projects are actually being worked ion right now? 22:36:11 <Wiki_Blue> ohh, thought you were talking about migrating projects 22:36:25 * DragonFire1024 has joined #wikimedia-cpg 22:36:46 <seanw> Wiki_Blue, I was, but you pointed out another issue :) 22:37:01 <cary-office> Let's stay on topic 22:37:27 <Wiki_Blue> ahh kay. 22:37:55 <cary-office> Because just because nobody is working on the old projects doesn't mean thier not still valid 22:37:58 <cary-office> or important 22:38:03 <cary-office> or maybe the data is old 22:38:08 <Wiki_Blue> or completed 22:38:10 <seanw> OKay Caru, so is anyone willing to organise it? 22:38:35 <cary-office> You need someone with [[organizational skills]] 22:38:35 <unilinky> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/organizational_skills 22:38:40 <Wiki_Blue> why not just send an email to comproj, asking people to move their projects, and those that aren't moved, will be put in archive 22:38:52 <cary-office> Because some projects aren't owned 22:39:04 <Wiki_Blue> right, and those will prob. not get done 22:39:18 <cary-office> Unless someone claims them after the move 22:39:20 <Wiki_Blue> b/c there has been no interest 22:39:26 <seanw> Well 22:39:36 <seanw> I have triwed e-mailing comproj.. didn't get a lot in response 8) 22:39:52 <seanw> Okay, well, what is more important is that new projects are being categorised correctly. 22:39:58 <Wiki_Blue> right. thats my point, if no one has participated that means people prob. didn't like them 22:40:00 <seanw> As fara s I can tell they are ebing, so we are okay :) 22:40:02 <cary-office> Wiki_Blue: Okay, how about "Communication Projects Group/Success stories - how has Wikimedia changed your life?" 22:40:07 <cary-office> No owner 22:40:08 <Wiki_Blue> thats working 22:40:11 <Wiki_Blue> and thats not a project 22:40:12 <Wiki_Blue> really 22:40:14 <cary-office> But who will migrate it? 22:40:16 <Wiki_Blue> thats why it son teh front page 22:40:20 <cary-office> it's listed under projects 22:40:22 <Wiki_Blue> of comproj 22:40:23 <cary-office> that's what I'm saying 22:40:49 <Wiki_Blue> yeah, but there is no action there required 22:40:57 <Wiki_Blue> know what i mean 22:40:59 <Wiki_Blue> anyway 22:41:00 <Wiki_Blue> do whatever 22:41:05 <Wiki_Blue> I'm migrating the one project i like :) 22:41:07 <cary-office> this is my point 22:41:27 <cary-office> I need someone on Wikibooks PR 22:41:30 <cary-office> I'm sorry there's no interest 22:41:37 <cary-office> But that doesn't mean that it doesn't need someone 22:41:52 <Wiki_Blue> you are right, but that means osmeone who that interest 22:42:00 <Wiki_Blue> i don't think people are going to work on project sthat don't interest themm 22:42:01 <seanw> So. Migrating the projects will take a couple of hours tops. 22:42:08 <seanw> Is anyone willing to do it? :) 22:42:15 <seanw> (I'm sorry, I really don't hjave the time right now)_ 22:42:45 <Cbrown1023> cary-office: "Wikibooks PR" --> SB_Johnny, maybe? 22:42:57 <cary-office> Cbrown1023: SB_Johnny is working on Wikiversity 22:43:23 <Cbrown1023> cary-office: well... he's a big dude on 'books too, isn't he? 22:43:40 <cary-office> Maybe darkcode 22:43:42 <cary-office> but that was just a point 22:43:45 * LeBron is now known as Chef_Hexasoft 22:43:50 <cary-office> Someone needs to migrate those projects 22:43:59 <cary-office> Cbrown1023: You have time? 22:44:11 <Cbrown1023> cary-office: some, what needs to be done exactly? 22:44:14 <Cbrown1023> just a mass-moved? 22:44:15 <Cbrown1023> -d 22:44:18 <seanw> Templated 22:44:23 <cary-office> get with seanw :) 22:44:25 <seanw> Article name moved if necessary 22:44:32 <seanw> Cbrown1023, if you are willing to do it I will brief you up. 22:44:45 <Cbrown1023> O_O 22:44:47 * Cbrown1023 is scared 22:44:58 <Cbrown1023> send me an e-mail or PM and I'll fit it in 22:45:04 <seanw> *hugs* 22:45:06 <seanw> Okay, next item. 22:45:15 <Cbrown1023> :-) 22:45:19 <seanw> Recruitment :) 22:45:22 * Chef_Hexasoft is now known as LeBron 22:45:24 <seanw> Let's take a look at our membership list 22:45:44 <WM-Thunderhead> "I want YOU for the Communication Projects Group". Let's get a Commons artist to do that. :-) 22:45:59 <Cbrown1023> hehe 22:45:59 <cary-office> I can't get Commons artists to do web buttons 22:46:06 <Cbrown1023> what do you mean? 22:46:19 <cary-office> grmbl grmbl 22:46:28 <Cbrown1023> WM-Thunderhead: you could always ask Miranda, she's been doing a few of those ;-) 22:46:44 <cary-office> Yes, let's get Miranda off web buttons :) 22:46:52 <seanw> Why? 22:46:56 <seanw> It keeps her busy. 22:47:02 <cary-office> blinking blinking blinking 22:47:30 <seanw> ? 22:47:37 <Cbrown1023> hehe 22:47:37 <cary-office> animated 22:47:41 <cary-office> a bit hard on the eyes 22:47:45 <Cbrown1023> seanw: he does nto find them asethetically appealing 22:47:47 <Cbrown1023> (spelling) 22:47:53 <seanw> Oh, right, fair enough. 22:47:55 <cary-office> But she'd be good for WM-Thunderhead's suggestion 22:48:02 <seanw> Do we have any other ways of recruitment? 22:48:13 <Cbrown1023> you already sent to all the lists... 22:48:19 <cary-office> Village Pumps 22:48:24 <WM-Thunderhead> And we've got a link in the sidebar on Meta 22:48:29 <cary-office> Leaving message on talk pages of bored editors 22:48:30 <brianmc> Get people drunk then club them over the head 22:48:32 <seanw> WM-Thunderhead, oh, taht survived? 22:48:44 <cary-office> at enwiki 22:48:48 <seanw> britty, efs and I were arguing that one out. 22:48:48 <WM-Thunderhead> Meta, i mean 22:48:56 <WM-Thunderhead> enwiki doesnt 22:49:02 <Wiki_Blue> a long time ago, i started contacting communications departemnts at universities 22:49:13 <cary-office> Oh, outside help 22:49:21 <Cbrown1023> that seems cool ;-) 22:49:22 <cary-office> sorry 22:49:23 <Wiki_Blue> but the problem is that there has to be a welcomer" 22:49:26 <Cbrown1023> cary-office: what's wrong? 22:49:39 <cary-office> I have people who've sent emails that want to volunteer 22:49:43 <Wiki_Blue> someone to show them the rpoes 22:49:47 <Wiki_Blue> ropes 22:49:50 <brianmc> Wiki_Blue: We have someone on en.wn would be interested in that for getting journalism schools writing on Wikinews 22:49:53 <cary-office> And not hang them in them 22:50:07 <Wiki_Blue> that would be awesome brianmc 22:50:09 <seanw> cary-office, you are the volunteer co-ordinator! 22:50:19 <Wiki_Blue> irc, blah, blah, 22:50:23 <Cbrown1023> Wiki_Blue: "show them the ropes" --> volunteer manual? :-) 22:50:28 <Wiki_Blue> exactly! :) 22:50:33 <Wiki_Blue> and be point of contact for questions 22:50:37 * Cbrown1023 is always here 22:50:42 <Wiki_Blue> wiki world is a bit confusing when you first come in 22:50:51 <seanw> Okay. 22:51:03 <seanw> Cary: do you have tiem to do some recruitment as volcol? 22:51:03 <Wiki_Blue> that could be a comproj position, couldn it :) 22:51:05 <Wiki_Blue> lol 22:51:09 <Cbrown1023> :-) 22:51:16 <Wiki_Blue> ComProj Welcomer 22:51:17 <Cbrown1023> seanw: cary, have time? 22:51:17 <Wiki_Blue> lol 22:51:17 <cary-office> Time? I'll have to make some 22:51:20 <Cbrown1023> hehe 22:51:31 <seanw> cary-office, good, please do so. 22:51:33 <Cbrown1023> brb, /me has to help set up a bed 22:51:34 <seanw> Onto our next item :) 22:51:44 <Cbrown1023> argh 22:51:45 <seanw> "ComProj new member "Must-Read" list? (as brought up last meeting)" 22:51:47 <Cbrown1023> the one I put on 22:51:48 <seanw> Do we need thjis? 22:51:51 * Cbrown1023 has to brb 22:52:00 <WM-Thunderhead> Meh. I personally don't think we need a *must read* list, 22:52:27 <seanw> Well 22:52:31 <seanw> Neither do I particularly. 22:52:39 <seanw> But it was brought up so I am asking for opinions :) 22:52:54 <Wiki_Blue> i think it should be optional, but available 22:53:09 <brianmc> Recommended Reading List 22:53:10 <Cbrown1023> "do we need this?" --> some had no clue what wikizine was 22:53:17 <seanw> Cbrown1023, I see what you mean 22:53:23 <seanw> So, if someone wants to do this, go ahead. 22:53:30 <seanw> Otherwise we don't have to :) 22:53:31 <WM-Thunderhead> Reccomended Reading List is good 22:53:40 <cary-office> Ah, yes 22:53:46 <Wiki_Blue> you guys saw what Mike H was working on/ 22:53:51 <cary-office> Subscribing to important stuff 22:53:53 <seanw> WM-Thunderhead, remind me? :) 22:53:57 <Wiki_Blue> add it to newbie manual 22:53:58 <WM-Thunderhead> Yes, sir. 22:53:59 <Wiki_Blue> :) 22:54:09 <WM-Thunderhead> :) 22:54:33 <seanw> Great. 22:54:39 <seanw> Wiki_Blue* 22:54:43 <seanw> I mishighlighted abiove,. 22:54:46 <Wiki_Blue> was up? 22:54:50 <seanw> "# Press pack, images of relevant people (symode09) 22:54:50 <seanw> # Setting up the stats group and setting up the stats software (symode09)" 22:54:54 <WM-Thunderhead> Wiki_Blue, can *you* remind me what Mike H was taking about? 22:55:00 <Cbrown1023> he's not here /me sobs 22:55:00 <Wiki_Blue> ahh hold on 22:55:01 <seanw> Can we do these without symode09? 22:55:08 <Cbrown1023> but, Wiki_Blue, stats group, how's that? 22:55:36 <Wiki_Blue> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communication_Projects_Group/Discussion_Outlets 22:55:40 <cary-office> We need to have alternate meetings available to Australians 22:55:53 <Wiki_Blue> well, there were was interest, but these were all people new to the wiki process 22:55:58 <seanw> cary-office, yeah :\ 22:56:00 <Wiki_Blue> and i think alot of them got scared off 22:56:01 <Wiki_Blue> for real 22:56:05 <Cbrown1023> awww 22:56:10 <Cbrown1023> how? 22:56:11 <loco085> :O 22:56:27 <Wiki_Blue> well, number one setting up IRC is overwhelming if you are nto technical 22:56:32 <brianmc> hey, loco085 you' 22:56:46 <cary-office> There is a web based IRC client 22:56:52 * Cbrown1023 is on java.freenode.net right now 22:56:53 <brianmc> ve not been promoting firstname.lastname@example.org 22:57:14 <WM-Thunderhead> Wonder if Wikimedia would consider setting up something like http://www.wikimedia.org/cgiirc/irc.cgi 22:57:17 <Wiki_Blue> good too know! 22:57:27 <loco085> it can be use for people send news, brianmc ? 22:57:30 <WM-Thunderhead> CGI:IRC sucks, but still, good to have it available 22:57:32 <Cbrown1023> WM-Thunderhead: no 22:57:33 <brianmc> Yes 22:57:42 <loco085> oh, i didn't know... brianmc 22:57:45 <WM-Thunderhead> No? 22:57:47 <Wiki_Blue> well, its great, just daunting for people that aren't techies 22:57:49 <Cbrown1023> WM-Thunderhead: seanw wanted to put a better CGI:IRC On the ts 22:57:52 <Cbrown1023> but river shot him down 22:57:57 <WM-Thunderhead> ahh 22:57:57 * Cbrown1023 forgets why 22:57:59 <seanw> WM-Thunderhead, I have looked into that. It was denied several times. 22:58:00 <Wiki_Blue> and second this "new way" of volunteering was weird 22:58:04 <Wiki_Blue> (some stated) 22:58:07 <Cbrown1023> seanw: ;-) 22:58:07 <seanw> WM-Thunderhead, waht do you mean? 22:58:30 <WM-Thunderhead> What do I mean what? 22:58:30 <Platonides> have an irc client is not technical 22:58:39 <Platonides> not more than any other IM 22:58:52 <Cbrown1023> Platonides: :-/ 22:58:58 <brianmc> loco085: You'll get the mail, terinjokes will and me too - get a few more spanish speakers and coverage will be better 22:58:59 <seanw> Ack 22:59:00 <seanw> WM-Thunderhead, sorry 22:59:06 <seanw> Wiki_Blue, what do you mean byu that? :) 22:59:16 <cary-office> wikizine.org has a chat client 22:59:32 <Cbrown1023> yup 22:59:37 <Cbrown1023> it's easily accessible too 22:59:40 <Wiki_Blue> well, at least in US in larger cities (wehre most of these people were based) its common for professionals to volunteer, but you actually have real meetings in person lololol 22:59:43 <cary-office> But you can't get into this channel 22:59:46 <loco085> oki, i will promote it, brianmc :) 22:59:50 <seanw> cary-office, we can fix that - mail walter 22:59:53 <Wiki_Blue> nto over the net....so it was a bit strange 22:59:55 <seanw> Wiki_Blue, agreed. 23:00:06 <Wiki_Blue> so they got scared :( 23:00:10 <cary-office> seanw: I was planning to 23:00:29 <seanw> So. 23:00:51 <seanw> Where are we with this? :) 23:00:52 <Cbrown1023> Wiki_Blue: well.... we could all fly down to FL every wednesday... :-) 23:01:01 <Wiki_Blue> how awesome would that be :) 23:01:06 <Cbrown1023> :-D 23:01:15 * Cbrown1023 would see Wiki_Blue and tower over her ;-) 23:01:55 <WM-Thunderhead> heh, if I can get out of school every Wednesday, i'll give it a go ;-) 23:02:21 <Wiki_Blue> well, maybe one day well have the donations to start doing that type of stuff 23:02:28 <Wiki_Blue> like community interships over the summer etc 23:02:45 * cary-testing has joined #wikimedia-cpg 23:02:54 <WM-Thunderhead> Internship... sounds good to me 23:02:55 <cary-testing> IRCatWork seems to be okay 23:03:05 <cary-testing> Hi cary-office 23:03:05 <seanw> IRCatWork is a cool thing. 23:03:09 <cary-office> Hi cary-testing 23:03:45 <loco085> lol cary- 23:04:00 <seanw> Okay. 23:04:03 <cary-office> I want to follow up on something from last week 23:04:05 <seanw> This is basically all we have the the agenda. 23:04:08 <seanw> Oh, go on Cary :) 23:04:19 <cary-office> Did anyone follow up with Wikizine? 23:04:33 * cary-office forgets who was going to work with walter on it 23:04:42 * WM-Thunderhead will 23:04:56 * cary-office is chatting with Walter right now 23:04:58 <WM-Thunderhead> Mind, i can't give *too* much time, but I can write stories 23:05:03 <Cbrown1023> cary-office: well... he's sent out a post to all the mailing lists too 23:05:22 <loco085> I just entry some times from Wikizine, cary-office... when i am not at my house 23:05:40 <seanw> Anyone can submit stuff without being on staff. 23:05:44 <seanw> If you don'[t have time for commitment. 23:05:45 <cary-office> I can't keep up with my own blog 23:06:13 <Cbrown1023> hehe 23:06:29 <cary-testing> No, cary-office, and I've been meaning to talk to you about that 23:06:50 <cary-office> seanw: Commitment is a difficult thing, it seems, around here 23:07:17 <seanw> cary-office, good point. 23:07:22 <seanw> Okay,. 23:07:27 <seanw> Do we have any issues others would like to raise? 23:07:52 <WM-Thunderhead> Nope, not that I can think of 23:08:24 <cary-office> Walter is going to add it right away 23:08:40 <cary-office> seanw: What time do you think it would be good for you to do an Australian friendly meeting 23:09:38 <seanw> cary-office, what is the aurtaslian timezone? 23:09:52 <cary-office> I'm not sure where symode09 is 23:10:16 <cary-office> Perth 23:10:21 <loco085> he has 11 hours more than me.. i think 23:10:32 <loco085> here it's 6:09 PM 23:10:46 <cary-office> Perth is UTC + 8 now 23:10:49 <cary-office> UTC + 9 in summer 23:10:59 <seanw> Hmm 23:11:00 <Cbrown1023> symode is in Perth 23:11:02 <seanw> So early morning 23:11:03 <Cbrown1023> so, yeah, you're right 23:11:10 <seanw> I can potentially do that at the weekend, but not realy during the week. 23:11:19 <seanw> Hmm 23:11:24 <cary-office> Melbourne is UTC +10/11 23:11:27 <seanw> cary-office, can you point this out on the ml please? 23:11:32 <cary-office> sure 23:11:46 <Cbrown1023> seanw: and I need that e-mail when you can 23:11:49 <Cbrown1023> for that first thing 23:11:53 <Cbrown1023> whatever you enlisted me for ;-) 23:11:56 <cary-office> I think having some "Asian Zone" participants, we might get more interest 23:11:56 * Cbrown1023 doesn't even know yet 23:12:55 <cary-office> Walter will be adding that to the dropdown poste-haste 23:13:08 <seanw> Cbrown1023, yeah, thanks, remind me at some point - sorry 23:13:11 <seanw> cary-office, what's this he is adding? 23:13:23 <cary-office> #wikimedia-cpg to the dropdown list on wikizine.org 23:13:35 <WM-Thunderhead> #wikimedia-cpg to the wikizine.org IRC list 23:13:49 * WM-Thunderhead hits lagging computer 23:15:17 <WM-Thunderhead> So I assume that's all for this meeting? 23:15:50 <seanw> Ah cool. 23:15:50 <seanw> Okay 23:15:55 * seanw waves the gavel threateningly 23:15:59 <cary-office> looks that way 23:16:01 * WM-Thunderhead steals gavel 23:16:31 * WM-Thunderhead has left #wikimedia-cpg 23:16:38 <Cbrown1023> O_O 23:16:59 * Wikizine_guest32 has joined #wikimedia-cpg 23:17:04 <Cbrown1023> hehe 23:17:23 * seanw bangs the gavel. 23:17:25 <seanw> Meeting over. 23:17:28 <seanw> I have to go - thanks guys :) 23:17:37 * Wikizine_guest23 has joined #wikimedia-cpg 23:17:41 <Wikizine_guest32> Notice: this channel is added to the IRC service of http://chat.wikizine.org That is all.