Communication Projects Group/Meetings/2007-05-30
Accurate timestamps - at last! The system needed a reboot (or, I should say, the lightning rebooted the system).
May 30 21:36:33 <seanw> Okay, so we begin: the main purpose of this meeting is to bring Sandy up to speed with what we';ve been up to and let her give her opinions on our structural changes. May 30 21:36:43 <seanw> Martinp23, oho, new automatic functionality? May 30 21:36:48 <seanw> So I guess we just wait for her to arriv.e May 30 21:36:50 <loco085> hi Wiki_Blue :) May 30 21:36:54 <seanw> cary-office, tell her we're all waiting on her ;) May 30 21:37:00 <cary-office> She should acknowledge our existence May 30 21:37:07 <schiste> Hmmm? May 30 21:37:24 <Martinp23> seanw: No - I was just seeing how many messages I recieved in one day by logging all channels, and haven't turned it off yet ;) May 30 21:38:11 <cary-office> She's having connectivity issues May 30 21:38:13 <cary-office> hang on May 30 21:38:55 <seanw> k May 30 21:39:08 <seanw> Martinp23, all my 70-od channels log all the time :D May 30 21:39:17 <seanw> 80-odd* May 30 21:39:22 <Martinp23> :O May 30 21:39:29 <Martinp23> I'm only logging about 30 ;) May 30 21:39:30 <seanw> I jhave several GB worth of logs May 30 21:39:36 * WikiBlue (n=WikiRock@wikimedia/wikiblue) has joined #wikimedia-cpg May 30 21:39:40 <WikiBlue> kay May 30 21:39:41 <seanw> WB WikiBlue May 30 21:39:44 <WikiBlue> can everyone see me? May 30 21:39:46 <loco085> hi WikiBlue :D May 30 21:39:49 <WikiBlue> sorry! internet connection was sucky May 30 21:39:49 <loco085> yes May 30 21:39:50 <WikiBlue> hey :) May 30 21:39:51 <loco085> i can May 30 21:39:58 <WikiBlue> nice to see everyone May 30 21:40:17 <WikiBlue> so how r things going? May 30 21:40:23 <seanw> Great! May 30 21:40:25 <WikiBlue> i heard you guys were busy beavers :) May 30 21:40:27 <seanw> Nt as good without you! May 30 21:40:35 <seanw> WikiBlue, have you read our maling list or shall we update you? May 30 21:40:45 <cary-office> busy badgers (winking at schiste) May 30 21:40:45 * loco085 is happy to see WikiBlue again :) May 30 21:40:45 <WikiBlue> i've skimmed but i had like 1,000 emails lol May 30 21:40:51 * schiste laughts May 30 21:40:52 <WikiBlue> Me too loco :) May 30 21:41:09 <WikiBlue> so whats up? May 30 21:41:11 * HistoryBuff (i=historyb@anapnea.net) has joined #wikimedia-cpg May 30 21:41:28 <WikiBlue> what coolio projects have you guys been working on? May 30 21:41:39 <seanw> WikiBlue, not so much projects but ourselves. May 30 21:41:39 <HistoryBuff> Wiki_Blue: Welcome back May 30 21:41:45 <WikiBlue> thanks history :) May 30 21:41:48 <seanw> WikiBlue, we've tried to reorganise somewhat May 30 21:41:58 <HistoryBuff> (sorry I'm late, just checked the e-mail) May 30 21:42:06 <WikiBlue> (just started) May 30 21:42:45 <seanw> WikiBlue, basically we decided to use the mailing list and on-wiki talkpage for more discussion and use meetings as and when we need them rather than weekly - you oaky with that? May 30 21:42:46 <cary-office> sean was away for two weeks May 30 21:43:14 <schiste> I'd like us to keep the weekly meet May 30 21:43:21 <schiste> even it's less official May 30 21:43:24 <seanw> cary-office, just the meeting! May 30 21:43:29 <WikiBlue> hmmm. sort of but let me explain something, and maybe we can come up with a solution May 30 21:43:53 <WikiBlue> the problem is that this list serve was a way to tie together people from all projects that are doing communications work May 30 21:44:09 <WikiBlue> like LGBT is very active May 30 21:44:11 <WikiBlue> for example May 30 21:44:20 <WikiBlue> however, unless i had met someone from that group May 30 21:44:28 <WikiBlue> i would have known all the communication stuff they were doing May 30 21:44:52 <WikiBlue> and I'm trying to convince people like that to join so that across all projects we can all be informed May 30 21:45:09 <seanw> WikiBlue, that's where the meeting falls down - only a few of us can get to it each week, so we wante dto use the list and wiki more May 30 21:45:31 <HistoryBuff> We're a wiki based org, after all. :) May 30 21:45:33 <WikiBlue> right. no, i get it May 30 21:45:46 <WikiBlue> i know where u guys r coming from May 30 21:45:48 <WikiBlue> i'm just wondering May 30 21:45:51 <WikiBlue> if there is another solution May 30 21:45:54 <HistoryBuff> We had discussed varying the start times of the meetings and such too. May 30 21:46:09 <WikiBlue> how about this May 30 21:46:22 <WikiBlue> if for whatever reason the list serve gets too busy May 30 21:46:26 <WikiBlue> we can just create another one May 30 21:46:34 <WikiBlue> for internal communication announcements May 30 21:46:50 <WikiBlue> which I need anyway...b/c it seems that if i send out a press release to reporters May 30 21:47:04 <WikiBlue> i should also be sending it to people in Wikimedia projects May 30 21:47:07 <WikiBlue> that are interested May 30 21:47:12 <WikiBlue> does that sound okay? May 30 21:47:18 <seanw> Well May 30 21:47:30 <seanw> I don't think comproh would become too busy anytime soon May 30 21:47:36 <seanw> But I would like us to use it a bit more freely May 30 21:47:36 <cary-office> why not? May 30 21:47:43 <WikiBlue> go ahead May 30 21:47:43 <Martinp23> I think it would make sense to have a separate -announce list May 30 21:47:52 <WikiBlue> kay. done then May 30 21:47:54 <WikiBlue> talk away May 30 21:47:55 <WikiBlue> :) May 30 21:47:58 <schiste> Hmmm imo we should use the ml as a way to discuss AND also keep the weekly meets May 30 21:48:15 <seanw> cary-office, ? May 30 21:48:20 <schiste> even if we just have on per month really official May 30 21:48:26 <cary-office> what schiste said May 30 21:48:40 <seanw> That's fine imo, keep them going May 30 21:48:49 <seanw> But May 30 21:48:55 <HistoryBuff> Informal brainstorming is never a bad thing. May 30 21:49:05 <seanw> Keep the fpocus on the ml rather than the chat because so few can attend this out of the whole group :) May 30 21:50:14 <seanw> Thought on that?> May 30 21:50:15 <seanw> s May 30 21:50:34 <HistoryBuff> "few can attend" <-- yes, and we should be trying to use the wiki to help participation too. May 30 21:50:42 <WikiBlue> yes, please do use the wiki as well May 30 21:51:20 <WikiBlue> maybe we can create one page for each project, and use the discussion page for detailed convos? May 30 21:51:29 <schiste> why not May 30 21:51:39 <schiste> Could be really helpful May 30 21:51:46 <schiste> to keep track of the ongoing projects May 30 21:51:58 <WikiBlue> does anyone here have access to internal? May 30 21:52:07 <schiste> I do. May 30 21:52:15 <WikiBlue> i'm going to send you alink May 30 21:52:18 <schiste> ok May 30 21:52:45 <WikiBlue> http://internal.wikimedia.org/wiki/PR_Projects May 30 21:52:49 <seanw> awww May 30 21:52:51 <seanw> We can't see it :( May 30 21:52:55 <WikiBlue> basically its this May 30 21:53:05 <WikiBlue> i keep a PR Project page May 30 21:53:13 <WikiBlue> and all these other useful info on: May 30 21:53:35 <WikiBlue> links, releases, etc.......I can replicate that on meta May 30 21:53:45 <schiste> ok so imo May 30 21:53:47 <WikiBlue> so that its like a hub of activitiy and info May 30 21:53:55 <schiste> we should create a page with May 30 21:54:06 <schiste> [[CPG/on going project]] May 30 21:54:06 <unilinky> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CPG/on_going_project May 30 21:54:11 <schiste> the list May 30 21:54:29 <schiste> and then [[CPG/Project name]] with details May 30 21:54:29 <unilinky> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CPG/Project_name May 30 21:54:38 <seanw> Go ahead. May 30 21:54:41 <seanw> We already have a few/ May 30 21:55:07 <schiste> yes, I mean for every project May 30 21:55:17 <schiste> just to keep track of stuff May 30 21:55:32 <schiste> Ok so this is what I propose for the oncomming week May 30 21:55:35 <seanw> Okay, let's do that. May 30 21:55:44 <schiste> we organise our wikiparts May 30 21:55:49 <WikiBlue> sounds good May 30 21:56:01 <schiste> make everything clean May 30 21:56:24 * Wiki_Blue has quit (Connection timed out) May 30 21:56:26 <WikiBlue> and I'll try to set up some basic info May 30 21:56:30 <seanw> In that, what role does the ml play? May 30 21:56:56 <HistoryBuff> the ml should be a prod May 30 21:57:00 <schiste> imo discussion point May 30 21:57:06 <schiste> wiki production and discussion May 30 21:57:18 <HistoryBuff> "Hey, this project is started ... needs help ... has this deadline coming up" May 30 21:57:26 <schiste> yes May 30 21:57:28 <seanw> This sounds very sensible. May 30 21:57:33 <schiste> why so ? May 30 21:57:46 <seanw> So Sandy posts to the list, and then poeople who are interested flood to the discussion page. May 30 21:57:56 <WikiBlue> kay. May 30 21:58:34 <schiste> not only sandy May 30 21:58:53 <seanw> schiste, yeah, not onlt sandy, but probably mainly her May 30 21:59:13 <schiste> Hmmm seems ok May 30 21:59:23 <cary-office> I get to post too May 30 21:59:30 <seanw> You do cary May 30 21:59:36 <seanw> But we'll moderate your postings ;D May 30 22:00:09 <seanw> Okay, guys, we've spent 1/2 hour on this May 30 22:00:17 <seanw> Have we got it hammered out mainly? May 30 22:02:32 <seanw> I'll take that as a yes; anything else people want to discuss? May 30 22:02:47 <WikiBlue> wikimania May 30 22:02:50 <WikiBlue> if possible May 30 22:02:53 <WikiBlue> just quickly May 30 22:03:27 <WikiBlue> (I;ll be writing up press releases to send out etc May 30 22:03:32 <seanw> Go ahead. May 30 22:03:36 <WikiBlue> 1) can you guys help distribute May 30 22:03:52 <WikiBlue> also 2) has anyone keep tracked on new media stuff? May 30 22:03:56 <WikiBlue> video etc? May 30 22:04:15 <WikiBlue> i think we should really promote the live video etc/ May 30 22:04:21 <seanw> WikiBlue, what do you mean by "help distrubute>" May 30 22:04:26 <seanw> Send to newspapers etc? May 30 22:04:32 <WikiBlue> once press releases or statements are made... May 30 22:04:34 <WikiBlue> send to newspapers May 30 22:04:37 <WikiBlue> word of mouth May 30 22:04:46 <WikiBlue> grass root - like sending emails to friends May 30 22:04:49 <WikiBlue> posting in blogs May 30 22:04:50 <WikiBlue> etc May 30 22:05:05 <WikiBlue> some of you are good at May 30 22:05:09 <WikiBlue> pitching stories May 30 22:05:16 <WikiBlue> like loco in latin america etc May 30 22:05:18 <HistoryBuff> WikiBlue: What video are we doing? :P May 30 22:05:37 <WikiBlue> We are doing video podcasts and other types of interactive new media things May 30 22:05:40 <schiste> already doing it so I can help May 30 22:05:42 <WikiBlue> (not sure of details) May 30 22:05:45 <seanw> WikiBlue, thanks on that. Our media person was symode, but he isn't around today. May 30 22:05:49 <WikiBlue> like i heard something of a virtual town meeting etc May 30 22:05:58 <seanw> WikiBlue, you probably want to e-mail symode09 wrt to video May 30 22:06:04 <WikiBlue> kay. May 30 22:06:29 <WikiBlue> well talk to schiste and symode09 May 30 22:06:31 <WikiBlue> thats all May 30 22:06:36 <WikiBlue> and then send you guys update May 30 22:07:01 <HistoryBuff> I have been in contact with some of the taiwan people, and symode and I have chatted a bit ... maybe there is more that he's doing that I'm not aware of though. May 30 22:07:12 <schiste> I'll be back in one hour May 30 22:07:17 <schiste> more or less May 30 22:07:19 <schiste> see you then May 30 22:07:20 <WikiBlue> kay. May 30 22:08:06 <seanw> Okay, so, we're done tonight? May 30 22:08:20 <WikiBlue> i am May 30 22:09:15 <HistoryBuff> Did we get that "mission statement" in a final form and does WikiBlue know about that? May 30 22:09:20 <seanw> Ah yes, that. May 30 22:09:22 <seanw> No idea :S May 30 22:09:38 <HistoryBuff> :P May 30 22:09:47 <HistoryBuff> WikiBlue: That sound familiar? May 30 22:09:50 <WikiBlue> nope May 30 22:09:55 <WikiBlue> for wikimedia foundation? May 30 22:10:16 <HistoryBuff> No, for CPG May 30 22:10:21 <WikiBlue> ahhh AWESOME May 30 22:10:32 <WikiBlue> havent' please send! May 30 22:11:07 * Platonides has quit () May 30 22:11:36 <seanw> OKay May 30 22:11:38 <seanw> Well, shall we clse this? May 30 22:13:11 <WikiBlue> kay May 30 22:13:17 <seanw> Martinp23, thanks, please close log May 30 22:13:20 <seanw> Thanks to all who attneded :) May 30 22:13:23 <seanw> Welcome back again WikiBlue