Communication Projects Group/Meetings/2007-05-16
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( 22:07:26 Topic for #wikimedia-cpg: Wikimedia Communication Projects Group | http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/ComProj | Meetings are being held every Wednesday, 1930 UTC (9:30 PM BST) | Note: Channel logs will be public ( 22:07:26 Topic set by schiste [] [Wed May 9 20:14:03 2007] ( 22:08:43 Martinp23 ) Should we not be meeting now? :) ( 22:11:54 cary ) the Meetings says 20:30 because nobody changed it ( 22:12:06 cary ) wait...it's past 20:30 ( 22:13:00 Martinp23 ) it's 21:57 ( 22:13:06 Martinp23 ) BST ( 22:13:24 Martinp23 ) or 22:13, depending on which of my computer clocks you look at ;) ( 22:14:02 Martinp23 ) cary, CraigSpurrier_aw, HistoryBuff, LeBron, Platonides, seanw, symode09, WalterBE ( 22:14:06 Martinp23 ) Ready for a meeting? ( 22:14:23 cary ) I am, as I'll ever be ( 22:14:53 * WalterBE So meta is correct, it is 20:30 (+/-) and not 19:30 (topic) ( 22:15:00 cary ) Note: We can accomplish something, but given the circumstances this week... don't consider it a failure if we do not accomplish a wide swath of things this week ( 22:15:08 cary ) WalterBE: I think 19:30 was last week's time ( 22:15:18 Martinp23 ) yes - seems so ( 22:15:45 topic = 'Wikimedia Communication Projects Group | http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/ComProj | Meetings are being held every Wednesday, 2030 UTC (9:30 PM BST) | Note: Channel logs will be public' on #wikimedia-cpg[set by Martinp23] ( 22:16:03 CraigSpurr = CraigSpurrier ( 22:16:19 Platonide ) the topic should be the most current time... sigh ( 22:17:02 Martinp23 ) I've just fixed it to tie in with the time now, and the time already in the topic for BST :) ( 22:18:02 Martinp23 ) The most pertinent issue at the moment is our aim - any ideas for our scope? ( 22:18:29 cary ) ah ( 22:18:31 cary ) hang on ( 22:20:10 cary ) nm...I didn't find it ( 22:20:50 cary ) I had seen earlier Sandy's original notes ( 22:21:34 Martinp23 ) http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communication_Projects_Group/announcement ( 22:21:59 Martinp23 ) This tell us that we will do, "specialized communications requests, such as researching press lists, analyzing media coverage," ( 22:21:59 cary ) Right ( 22:24:20 Martinp23 ) According to that page, our scope is "anything that ComCOm doesn't do" - is this a correct interpretation cary? ( 22:24:52 cary ) Well, I don't think ComCom is going to dance naked in the rain...so I don't think we mean "anything" ( 22:25:24 Martinp23 ) or, better, "Various publicity and communications tasks to assist the work of ComCom and facilitate inter-project communications"? ( 22:25:26 Martinp23 ) lol ( 22:25:43 Platonide ) lol² ( 22:26:08 cary ) yes ( 22:26:32 WalterBE ) "to assist the work of ComCom". And what does the comcom actualy does? ( 22:27:00 cary ) Nothing lately ( 22:28:24 Martinp23 ) I think I once heard ComProj's work to be "the grunt work of ComCom" - press lists, getting translators motivated for press releases, graphics, publicity, doing the background work (like helping with the Press pack and some press releases) ( 22:29:30 WalterBE ) Well, then it must be a feasible goal to assist the comcom with that ( 22:29:32 cary ) That sounds like a lot of what we do ( 22:30:33 Martinp23 ) ComCom -- communicates with --> outside world (OTRS, pres releases) ( 22:31:08 Martinp23 ) Projects -- Communucate via ComProj --> With ComCom ( 22:32:00 Martinp23 ) and ideas formulated by ComCom may be passed down to ComProj to be acted upon (as we have a far more active, and available, user base (in theory, at least)) ( 22:34:10 Martinp23 ) also, I suppose we would do informal research for either our own interests, and for ComCom ( 22:34:51 Martinp23 ) And it has been mentioned that ComProj members who have a project to develop can ask here for help, and get it ( 22:36:04 cary ) Yes ( 22:36:07 cary ) Get help and support ( 22:39:37 WalterBE ) then a special channel to contact to devs must be created and very clear instructions from the WMF must be given that those requests need to be taken care of. ( 22:40:41 WalterBE ) Otherwise it will get stuck at begging on #wikimedia-tech and bugzilla tickets to get anything done ( 22:42:41 cary ) wait, what? ( 22:42:51 cary ) I mean, example? ( 22:45:38 Martinp23 ) like a new language Wikiquote or something? ( 22:45:57 Platonide ) in which sense would these requests be different than normal ones? ( 22:46:25 Martinp23 ) I suppose that collaboration amongst comproj for such a project would be just as valid - I was thinking of projects like [[m:S]] or something ( 22:46:26 unilinky ) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/m:S ( 23:00:34 cary ) Don't worry that it's a bit of a slow meeting ( 23:00:34 cary ) we expected this ( 23:00:35 * HistoryBuff peeks in ( 23:00:35 cary ) ah, throw your $.02 in ( 23:00:35 * Platonides leaves ( 23:00:35 Platonides x [n=Platonid@wikipedia/Platonides] has quit irc [] ( 23:00:35 * HistoryBuff casts $.02 CDN in ( 23:00:35 cary ) wow ( 23:00:35 cary = bastique ( 23:00:35 * HistoryBuff reads to catch up ( 23:00:36 HistoryBu ) We're supposed to be doing just "grunt work" for comcom ... or will this include facilitating better inter-wiki co-operation? ( 23:00:36 bastique ) yes ( 23:01:06 Martinp23 ) both ( 23:04:47 HistoryBu ) Ah ok ;) ( 23:05:15 HistoryBu ) It doesn't appear there is any "grand strategy" yet ( 23:06:23 HistoryBu ) Should we tackle that at all? ( 23:06:27 Martinp23 ) Well, I think that it is effectively impossible for us to have one ( 23:06:43 bastique ) not necessarily ( 23:06:50 Martinp23 ) By definition, we do "odd jobs" ( 23:07:51 HistoryBu ) even with "odd jobs", we can still be working towards a grand goal. ( 23:07:53 bastique ) But there are ongoing things ( 23:08:02 bastique ) a larger goal is to foster participation ( 23:08:08 Martinp23 ) That said, a mission statement should be forumlated, outlining what we might be asked to do, and what services we make use of... ( 23:08:21 Martinp23 ) OK ( 23:08:27 HistoryBu ) Even something simple like "Improving communications among the projects" is a strategy. ( 23:08:39 bastique ) One of the benefits of having different duties is that it never gets boring ( 23:09:26 HistoryBu ) Having a grand strategy doesn't mean it has to be boring ... or you have to do the same thing twice ;) ( 23:09:33 bastique ) Right ( 23:09:38 Martinp23 ) indeed ( 23:09:58 Martinp23 ) So, any ideas for such a statement/strategy? ( 23:11:40 HistoryBu ) Well, an obvious one is better Inter project collab and communications ( 23:14:28 bastique ) I need to head home ( 23:17:51 HistoryBu ) ok ... is that a meeting wrap then? ( 23:19:17 bastique ) Dunno. Is someone collecting the log? ( 23:20:02 bastique ) You guys keep going. I need to head out. ( 23:20:13 bastique ) someone can collect the log, right? ( 23:23:31 bastique x [n=carybass@wikimedia/Bastique] has quit irc ["Punched the clock: ow!"] ( 23:30:12 * Martinp23 has a log ( 23:30:27 Martinp23 ) Shall we wrap up then? ( 23:31:57 Martinp23 ) In summary, we haven't had many attendees to this evening's meeting, but we discussed the role of ComProj, and threw many ideas around. A mission statement of sorts was deemed to be neccessary. The issue needs further discussion, with a wider participation. ( 23:32:00 Martinp23 ) The end :) ( 23:33:51 symode09 x [n=chatzill@203-59-191-149.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit irc ["ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/2007030919]"] ( 23:35:00 Martinp23 ) I'll upload the log ASAP