Wikimedia Foundation elections/2021/Meetings/Candidates meet with community August 1/Chat transcript
This is the chat log from the 1 August 2021 Board of Trustees election meeting. Timestamps are in Eastern Daylight Time.
Chat log
edit19:56:37 From Lucas Piantá to Everyone: Hello everyone
19:57:01 From Vicki Doronina to Everyone: Hello
19:57:11 From Dariusz Jemielniak to Everyone: howdie!
19:57:27 From Isabelle Belato to Everyone: Hi all!
19:58:10 From Celio to Everyone: Hi everybody! Hello from Brazil! ;)
19:59:33 From Brian Choo to Everyone: Hello!
20:00:29 From Oscar Costero to Everyone: Hi/Hola/Olá everyone!
20:00:30 From João Alexandre Peschanski to Everyone: Boa noite a todas, todos e todes. Hello all
20:00:39 From Cornelius (he/him) PT to Everyone: Olá, boa noite, se vocês querem ouvir a interpretação para Português, pressionem o Globo e escolhem "Português"
Hola, buenas noches, si quieren escuchar la interpretación en castellano, pulse el Globo y elijem "Espanol/Spanish".
20:02:57 From Dariusz Jemielniak (he/him) to Everyone: Farah - hand up!
20:05:03 From Dariusz Jemielniak (he/him) to Everyone: Ivan
20:05:16 From Farah Jack Mustaklem to Everyone: @Ivan
20:08:40 From lorenzo to Everyone: How much time do we have for introductions?
20:09:31 From Iván Martínez to Everyone: My sincere apologies, I had a confusion
20:09:49 From Brian Choo to Everyone: It’s alright—I just could not change the settings quickly enough!
20:09:57 From Dariusz Jemielniak (he/him) to Everyone: Ivan - no worries! :)
20:10:57 From Iván Martínez to Everyone: Thanks Dariusz! :))
20:14:38 From Vinicius Siqueira to Everyone: +1 How much time do we have for introductions?
20:16:22 From Xeno (he/him) to Everyone: Try to keep it to under 2 minutes 30 s
20:19:56 From Celio to Everyone: Brazilian Portuguese! :)
20:20:36 From Iván Martínez to Everyone: Love Brazilian accent :)
20:21:28 From João Alexandre Peschanski to Everyone: Saravá, Vini! slk tmj
20:21:50 From Dariusz Jemielniak (he/him) to Everyone: Jackie - I'm also here :)
20:22:25 From Dariusz Jemielniak (he/him) to Everyone: although someone lowered my hand
20:26:59 From Dariusz Jemielniak (he/him) to Everyone: half past two, zombie time!
20:28:01 From Farah Jack Mustaklem to Everyone: 3:30 here. Apologies if I'm not 100% alert :)
20:28:41 From Vicki Doronina to Everyone: 1:30 am, so 2 hours better :)
20:28:53 From Ravishankar Ayyakkannu to Everyone: Could you please show all ens in one slide
20:28:59 From Ravishankar Ayyakkannu to Everyone: * all qns
20:30:47 From Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight to Everyone: Can you please put the question back up?
20:31:00 From Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight to Everyone: Or place it in this Chat?
20:31:53 From jackiekoerner to Everyone: How do you intend to use this position to promote engagement and participation in minorities and under-represented communities?
20:32:01 From jackiekoerner to Everyone: Question 1
20:32:09 From Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight to Everyone: Thank you
20:33:54 From lorenzo to Everyone: I see that some of these questions come from the list of community questions (4,5, 6 and 7 I think). Some of us wrote the answers on: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2021/Candidates/Community_Questions
20:39:47 From Juan to Everyone: Hello!
20:39:58 From Oscar Costero to Everyone: Slower please!
20:43:14 From Ravishankar Ayyakkannu to Everyone: qn 1 and 2 feel similar
20:43:26 From Juan to Everyone: Cornelius está interpretando bem
20:44:58 From João Alexandre Peschanski to Everyone: Sim. Está ótimo. Parabéns!
20:45:38 From Lucas Piantá to Everyone: Obrigado, Cornelius! Tarefa importante e complexa
20:45:50 From Cornelius (he/him) PT to Everyone: SLOWER
20:47:14 From Juan to Everyone: Slower please!
20:48:51 From Brian Choo to Everyone: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WALRUS
20:52:42 From Ravishankar Ayyakkannu to Everyone: I will be skipping this qn as I feel I have answered it along with qn 1. However, I will answer here in chat
20:52:47 From A.WagnerC to Everyone: Hello
20:52:59 From A.WagnerC to Everyone: Good night
20:53:00 From Juan to Everyone: Hello A.Wagner!
20:53:04 From Ravishankar Ayyakkannu to Everyone: I am from India which shares a troubled history with Brazil regarding Movement Organisations
20:53:09 From João Alexandre Peschanski to Everyone: Oi A.WagnerC
20:53:19 From Vicki Doronina to Everyone: What is this grey thing obscuring half of the screen?
20:53:23 From Ravishankar Ayyakkannu to Everyone: India also had a Catalyst program funded by WMF 10 years back, then had a chapter which got dissolved now
20:53:31 From A.WagnerC to Everyone: Olá a todos
20:53:34 From Brian Choo to Everyone: I think it is supposed to be a timer—we are working on a fix
20:53:39 From Ravishankar Ayyakkannu to Everyone: Countries like India and Brazil are huge and needs more support from WMF
20:53:46 From Ravishankar Ayyakkannu to Everyone: to build the organisations
20:54:16 From Ravishankar Ayyakkannu to Everyone: Right now, it is working like rich get richer poor get poorer, stronger gets stronger, weaker gets weaker
20:54:30 From Juan to Everyone: Brazilian Portuguese is even more forgotten!
20:56:35 From João Alexandre Peschanski to Everyone: I agree Ravi. India and Brazil share several similarities with respect to their trajectory in the Wikimedia Movement. It’s an experience of systematic exclusion. Even here I was shocked my question that was specifically on the Brazilian case to be reduced to a generic question… We matter
20:56:50 From Juan to Everyone: Also
20:58:34 From Vicki Doronina to Everyone: Can I skip question 3? I think it's more for Dariusz and Rosie, who are involved with current WMF.
20:58:38 From Juan to Everyone: Okay
21:00:00 From Juan to Everyone: Darius seems to have knowledge of what in our communities, as he is a board director
21:01:40 From Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight to Everyone: What is Question #3? (I’m sorry, I don’t remember.)
21:01:45 From João Alexandre Peschanski to Everyone: Boa resposta, Iván! Juntos somos mais fortes
21:01:57 From Juan to Everyone: I agree
21:02:12 From Vinicius Siqueira to Everyone: Ivan! Gracias!
21:02:33 From Iván Martínez to Everyone: Thanks to you for always resisting!
21:03:15 From Ravishankar Ayyakkannu to Everyone: India is now supported by a movement partner organisation which doesn’t have membership
21:03:49 From Ravishankar Ayyakkannu to Everyone: That is a great privilege for an organisation to participate without the complexities and politics of running a membership organisation
21:03:58 From Ravishankar Ayyakkannu to Everyone: in vast countries like India / Brazil
21:04:08 From Érica Azzellini to Everyone: Thank you all for addressing this. It is truly a major question for the Brazilian community as it is urgent to tackle the systemic exclusion we've been facing
21:04:35 From Juan to Everyone: Which candidate will really be able to resolve the communication between the communities and the WMF, especially in the Portuguese language?
21:04:50 From Farah Jack Mustaklem to Everyone: I'd like to skip Q3
21:05:42 From Juan to Everyone: Agree
21:05:57 From Dariusz Jemielniak (he/him) to Everyone: I don't think communication can be really fixed without investing in technologies of "pulse checking" I spoke about, otherwise it is always possible to dismiss the voices.
Also, simplifying financing and making it local is key.
21:06:38 From Ravishankar Ayyakkannu to Everyone: @Juan I would be glad to serve as a liaison. However, I am not sure if you are looking for someone with Portuguese speaking skills too
21:08:05 From A.WagnerC to Everyone: without audio here
21:08:31 From João Alexandre Peschanski to Everyone: Aqui está funcionando bem. Você está ouvindo com a interpretação em português, @A.WagnerC ?
21:08:51 From Brian Choo to Everyone: On your bottom toolbar, you can choose the language that you want to listen in
21:08:56 From A.WagnerC to Everyone: só estou vendo a legenda em inglês
21:09:19 From João Alexandre Peschanski to Everyone: Tem a possibilidade de ouvir um intérprete em português
21:09:46 From Juan to Everyone: @Ravi Facilitators for these communication situations that speak Portuguese, not needing to be fluent, is very useful. For example, governance facilitators are very helpful to electoral volunteers in this matter of communication.
21:10:04 From A.WagnerC to Everyone: dá para entender a discussão lendo a legenda. mas acho que com o áudio do intérprete ficaria mais claro
21:10:43 From Dariusz Jemielniak (he/him) to Everyone: community-sourced trustee are possible - if we train our own leaders well.
21:10:58 From A.WagnerC to Everyone: Sorry friends.
21:11:03 From A.WagnerC to Everyone: very sorry
21:11:19 From A.WagnerC to Everyone: but I hate this app 😅
21:11:28 From Brian Choo to Everyone: Hopefully this message from Cornelius helps: Olá, boa noite, se vocês querem ouvir a interpretação para Português, pressionem o Globo e escolhem "Português"
Hola, buenas noches, si quieren escuchar la interpretación en castellano, pulse el Globo y elijem "Espanol/Spanish".
21:11:39 From Dariusz Jemielniak (he/him) to Everyone: Richard?
21:11:43 From Youngjin Ko to Everyone: Please mute if you are not speaking
21:11:43 From Vicki Doronina to Everyone: May be not only community-sourced but even organic (joke)
21:12:02 From Dariusz Jemielniak (he/him) to Everyone: fully organic, all natural!
21:12:23 From Ravishankar Ayyakkannu to Everyone: I totally understand the need for facilitators who speak the same language. I was just wondering if we have a board candidate who can do that role too
21:12:36 From Juan to Everyone: I see that the key to communication would be facilitation.
21:12:53 From Richard Knipel to Everyone: my apologies, got logged off, neglected to mute when I came back on, someone practicing their guitar in my background
21:12:57 From A.WagnerC to Everyone: eu estou usando o app mobile. parece ter bastante limitação
21:13:05 From Dariusz Jemielniak (he/him) to Everyone: Facilitation - yes, but it is IMHO impossible without proper tool support.
21:13:25 From Dariusz Jemielniak (he/him) to Everyone: @Richard: no worries, it was a nice interludium
21:14:16 From Juan to Everyone: @Ravi Are you referring to the candidate Vinicius?
21:22:39 From Juan to Everyone: Just to be sure, how many candidates will it be possible to vote?
21:22:58 From Dariusz Jemielniak (he/him) to Everyone: You basically RANK candidateas
21:23:17 From Dariusz Jemielniak (he/him) to Everyone: you can rank all 20 - but your vote goes to the first one who is able to make the cut
21:23:26 From Brian Choo to Everyone: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2021/Voting
21:23:26 From Ravishankar Ayyakkannu to Everyone: RANK all candidates based on your preference
21:23:34 From João Alexandre Peschanski to Everyone: Can you put more than one candidate as first choice?
21:23:41 From Ravishankar Ayyakkannu to Everyone: No
21:23:43 From Dariusz Jemielniak (he/him) to Everyone: not really
21:23:56 From Juan to Everyone: Okay, thanks
21:24:03 From A.WagnerC to Everyone: when is the election?
21:24:05 From Dariusz Jemielniak (he/him) to Everyone: but if your numer one does not make it to the top 4, your vote goes to numer 2
21:24:11 From Felipe Lima to Everyone: essa era uma pergunta que eu também me fazia. valeu por perguntarem pessoal
21:24:13 From Dariusz Jemielniak (he/him) to Everyone: it starta on August 4
21:24:37 From João Alexandre Peschanski to Everyone: Have candidates given up? Or are they all running?
21:24:47 From A.WagnerC to Everyone: 👍
21:24:47 From Dariusz Jemielniak (he/him) to Everyone: 20 candidates are running :)
21:24:53 From lorenzo to Everyone: No candidate has given up
21:25:05 From João Alexandre Peschanski to Everyone: Thanks
21:26:03 From Vicki Doronina to Everyone: I want to skip this Q
21:26:05 From Juan to Everyone: Now I remembered that each question answered here will have to be translated later by us electoral volunteers
21:26:26 From Ravishankar Ayyakkannu to Everyone: Thank you Juan for doing that
21:26:44 From João Alexandre Peschanski to Everyone: Juan: você está fazendo um ótimo trabalho!
21:27:01 From Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight to Everyone: Sorry- how much time do I have left? The speaker cut out on my end.
21:27:02 From Felipe Lima to Everyone: verdade.
21:27:19 From Felipe Lima to Everyone: Agradeço Juan :)
21:28:14 From A.WagnerC to Everyone: great Juan
21:28:29 From pavan santhosh to Everyone: Hello Everyone
21:28:33 From Dariusz Jemielniak (he/him) to Everyone: 2 minutes
21:28:42 From pavan santhosh to Everyone: Sorry for joining so late.
21:28:57 From Juan to Everyone: Too bad it's 2 minutes to go
21:29:09 From Dariusz Jemielniak (he/him) to Everyone: yeah, we're almost done…
21:30:13 From Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight to Everyone: By the way, I spent 15 years in talent acquisition, including C-Suite positions. I think I am uniquely qualified to bring that point of view (talent acquisition) to the Board.
21:30:28 From João Alexandre Peschanski to Everyone: Rosie, what is C-suite?
21:30:49 From Dariusz Jemielniak (he/him) to Everyone: the managing board
21:30:52 From Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight to Everyone: C-suite = Chief X positions. e.g. CEO, CTO, etc.
21:30:55 From Dariusz Jemielniak (he/him) to Everyone: C- for chief
21:30:59 From João Alexandre Peschanski to Everyone: OK, thanks
21:31:06 From Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight to Everyone: Sorry for the short-hand. My bad.
21:31:55 From Iván Martínez to Everyone: Skills that I consider:
21:32:36 From Iván Martínez to Everyone: Being a woman Open to diversity Have conflict resolution skills Have a permanent focus on the asymmetries of the world Have worked in civil society or volunteering
21:33:23 From Vicki Doronina to Everyone: Being a woman is not a skill :)
21:33:48 From Juan to Everyone: Now, the meeting is running over the deadline, but this little extra time has been great.
21:34:02 From Vicki Doronina to Everyone: But having an NGO experience certainly, that's more important than technical skills
21:35:29 From João Alexandre Peschanski to Everyone: Obrigado a todo mundo. Obrigado, Cornelius! Incrível
21:35:41 From Iván Martínez to Everyone: I know, Vicki, I think we need more women in key decision positions.
21:35:43 From Juan to Everyone: I liked the meeting, now on the 4th of August elections started
21:35:54 From Juan to Everyone: Obrigado Cornelius, pela interpretação!
21:36:05 From Vicki Doronina to Everyone: Ivan, I agree with you
21:36:12 From Celio to Everyone: Obrigado pessoal. Obrigado Cornelius!
21:36:17 From Ravishankar Ayyakkannu to Everyone: Thank you all for attending today’s meeting
21:36:28 From Ravishankar Ayyakkannu to Everyone: I would like to exit now as it is 4:35 am where I live
21:36:37 From Ravishankar Ayyakkannu to Everyone: I will be happy to answer questions in meta
21:36:42 From Youngjin Ko to Everyone: Thanks for joining us!
21:36:43 From Ravishankar Ayyakkannu to Everyone: My username is ravidreams
21:36:47 From Vicki Doronina to Everyone: Goodnight, Ravi
21:36:49 From Ravishankar Ayyakkannu to Everyone: Have a good day everyone
21:36:50 From Juan to Everyone: Thanks to the candidates, who participated today!
21:36:52 From João Alexandre Peschanski to Everyone: Thank you Ravi for taking the time to join!
21:37:22 From Érica Azzellini to Everyone: Thanks for offering the simultaneous translations ths time - lovely to hear Cornelius today. Although this resource was available, I have the feeling that most candidates without English as a first language had their performance impacted by the time limit. Boa noite!
21:38:05 From Juan to Everyone: I confess I awaited your interpretation, Cornelius!
21:38:17 From Dariusz Jemielniak (he/him) to Everyone: I'm going to check out, too - I have a long drive tomorrow and it is almost 4 a.m....
21:38:33 From Dariusz Jemielniak (he/him) to Everyone: My response to question no. 7:
I reply to individual editors and I think it is important. However, there should be no expectation on responding immediately (we're all volunteers), and also an understanding that trustees cannot comment on issues that are only going to be decided and everyone knows that.
21:38:43 From João Alexandre Peschanski to Everyone: Thanks Darius. Safe drive
21:38:54 From Dariusz Jemielniak (he/him) to Everyone: thank, bye! :)
21:38:57 From Youngjin Ko to Everyone: Thanks for joining us
21:39:05 From Iván Martínez to Everyone: Stay safe Dariusz!
21:39:11 From Juan to Everyone: Okay Darius, answer understood!
21:39:18 From Cornelius (he/him) PT to Everyone: Juan: I'm interpreting all the time
21:39:25 From Vicki Doronina to Everyone: Bye!
21:40:46 From Juan to Everyone: I'm already seeing candidates, who will be able to appreciate help in this matter.
21:43:57 From Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight to Everyone: Good point, Pavan.
21:44:09 From pavan santhosh to Everyone: Thank you, Rosie!
21:45:56 From Juan to Everyone: This meeting is also helping the candidates, in what I see here in the chat
21:49:11 From Juan to Everyone: The meeting is late but still interesting
21:49:15 From Iván Martínez to Everyone: Not sure in what moment I spend all my time being honest.
21:51:21 From Juan to Everyone: Slower please
21:56:00 From Juan to Everyone: Good Lorenzo!
21:57:12 From Juan to Everyone: Candidates come up with interesting answers, but later I will take a good look at the "good" candidate to resolve this.
21:58:27 From João Alexandre Peschanski to Everyone: Yes. Everyone looks cool and will do a good job. We are a great community
21:59:41 From Bunty Avieson to Everyone: thank you to all the candidates. this has been very useful.
21:59:44 From Juan to Everyone: Thanks candidates!
21:59:44 From Peter Meyer to Everyone: +1. Good visions and comments. Thank you candidates
21:59:50 From Vicki Doronina to Everyone: Thank you, Jackie
22:00:10 From Vermont to Everyone: thanks everyone, I didn't think I'd find this helpful in making decisions on who I support but this has been immensely influential
22:00:26 From Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight to Everyone: Thank you to the facilitator, interpreters, and the attendees! Appreciate your time.
22:00:26 From Ederporto to Everyone: Thank you all, organizers and candidates, it was great!
22:00:31 From Vicki Doronina to Everyone: +1
22:00:32 From Youngjin Ko to Everyone: Thank you!
22:00:33 From Vinicius Siqueira to Everyone: Obrigado e muchas gracias!
22:00:36 From Juan to Everyone: Thank you candidates and facilitators! I liked the answers I will analyze later!
22:00:38 From pavan santhosh to Everyone: Sorry for joining late, I missed my alarms and slept. (5.30 am - 7 am, Sunday)
22:00:39 From Peter Meyer to Everyone: The difficult hours are a test of commitment. For the voters too!
22:00:42 From João Alexandre Peschanski to Everyone: Thank you all! Obrigado de novo, Cornelius
22:00:43 From jackiekoerner to Everyone: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2021/Voting
22:00:49 From Isabelle Belato to Everyone: Thanks to all. Great meeting
22:00:49 From Bunty Avieson to Everyone: many thanks Jackie, your input across so many channels has been great :)
22:00:53 From Juan to Everyone: Thank you candidates and facilitators! I liked the answers I will analyze later
22:00:58 From Érica Azzellini to Everyone: Obrigada a todas e todos!
22:01:08 From Iván Martínez to Everyone: ¡Muchas gracias a todos y todas!
22:01:08 From Xeno (he/him) to Everyone: Thank you for coming everyone!
22:01:11 From Juan to Everyone: Obrigado Cornelius, pela interpretação novamente!
22:01:13 From Lucas Piantá to Everyone: vlw slk tmj
22:01:14 From Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight to Everyone: Buenos noches!
22:01:19 From annatorres to Everyone: Buenas noches!
22:01:33 From Muhammad Akbar to Everyone: thank everyone
22:01:54 From Juan to Everyone: Bye bye facilitators (Jackie, Oscar and Xeno)!
22:01:57 From Cornelius (he/him) PT to Everyone: You can end interpretation
22:02:14 From Juan to Everyone: Thanks all! Good bye!
22:03:35 From Juan to Everyone: Ficará disponível gravado essa reunião?
22:04:04 From Oscar Costero to Everyone: Sim
22:04:25 From Juan to Everyone: Thanks Oscar and bye bye! Ou melhor, tchau