Wikimedia Conference 2012/Documentation/Day 2/Council
Lead: Ziko van Dijk Begin: 13:48 - End: 16:45
1.) AMMENTMENTS
To be added: results concerning the other amendments.
- A1: “No judicial Board”
- Explanation and discussion was yesterday
- Proposal: Remove section D.
- Opposite: Keep section D implemented to reactivate it in case it is needed. Write a new amendment in case it is not accepted.
- Yes: 9 No: 14
- A2: Rename Council to General assembly
- Finished yesterday (and the outcome was ...?)
- A3: Dues
- Finished yesterday (and the outcome was ...?)
- A4: “Membership of the council”
- Postponed
- A5: “Associate members”
- Short Explanation by Charles
- Short discussion: “Only chapters can sign” vs. “Chapters –to-be can help”: Different steps.
- Manuel Schneider: This could be helpful in case chapters don’t meet the requirements.
- Delphine: We invite chapters-to-be to be involved in the discussion but we don’t need to fix this in the discussion.
- Charles: It’s a question of wording (support)
- Delphine: No, she does not want this in the charta.
- Christophe: We want to sign this, in case something is broken, we will fix it and improve it, but we must keep in mind that we want to sign the council now.
- We don’t want to have a decision on this today, it’s not important enough.
- A6: “Sanctions”
- We don’t want to have a decision today, it’s not important enough.
- A7: Meeting
- Finished yesterday (and the outcome was ...?)
- A8: Common programs / projects
- Finished yesterday (and the outcome was ...?)
- A9: Simplify amendment ratification
- Short explanation by Frieda.
- Proposal: Remove A, 4
- Yes: 15 No: Minority
- Proposal: Remove A, 4
- Short explanation by Frieda.
- A10: Add financial advisors
- Short explanation by Frieda
- Short discussion about the wording.
- Delphine: We cannot vote on this in this form (wording).
- Proposal I: Add a comment about financial advisors in the charta (Frieda is going to write a wording for this later).
- Yes: 17 No: Minority.
- Proposal for the wording: Add Section X: “1. The Auditors guarantee that the resources of the Association are used according to the mission and that transparency is maintained. 2. The Auditors are appointed by the Council for a term of two years. They cannot be members of the Council or the Secretariat or hold positions in a Chapter member of the Association.”
- Yes: 25
- Short explanation by Frieda
- A11: No umbrella organization
- Short explanation by Simon Studinsky
- Explanation: “all other aspects” can make chapters unindependent.
- Kulac: Proposal: Replace A1,5 :”and to serve as an umbrella organization for the Chapters in all other aspects not mentioned before.” by “and to serve as an umbrella organization for the Chapters."
- Delphine: We don’t want to make the council less and less powerful and smaller
- Sebastian: The sense of A1,5 is to be able to expand the topics.
- Proposal: Strike A/1/5 completely.
- Yes: 6 No: 14
- Proposal: Strike A/1/5 completely.
- A12: No common interests
- Explanation by Simon: Common interests are critical.
- Delphine: We all have common interests.
- Proposal: Strike A,1,8 – Yes: 6 No: 20
- No vote
- Proposal: Add “member” in A,1,8. – Discussion
- No vote
- Delphine: “Chapter” is used in very different ways, we cannot only change this here.
- Short discussion about this.
- Explanation by Simon: Common interests are critical.
- Proposal: Change “chapter” to “member” were appropriate
- Yes: 19 No: 0
- Proposal: Change “chapter” to “member” were appropriate
- A 13: Veto / limit on dues
- Withdrawn
- A 14: “Size of the Secretariat”
- Explanation by Sebastian: Agrees with Lodewijk that this is not important enough to discuss it today.
- Proposal: Change it as proposed.
- Yes: 15 No: 5
- Proposal: Change it as proposed.
- A 15: Majority for amendments
- Withdrawn
- A 16: Languages
- Explanation by Daniel Bravo: Everybody has to be informed – multilingual.
- Charles: Problem: This can cause a lot of work.
- Delphine: Why this four languages? Better: Commitment to find languages so that every chapter can participate
- Khan: English should be enough, this can just cause work without helping every language.
- WMAR: We don’t want to change the working language but just define official languages
- Osmar: We just want languages that gives every chapter the opportunity to participate and engage more people. We’re tired of WMF using English.
- Stanislav: proposes six other languages.
- Kristin: If we want to have opinions from non-English-speakers we must bring an interpretor.
- Jeremy: What is an official language? What is required? No clear definition.
- WMIT: This is not a problem, the representative of the chapters can translate.
- Tomer: Suggestion: The council will hire translators, so translation will be done.
- Proposal I: Do we agree that writing something in the charta concerning multilingualism:
- Yes: 16 No: 10
- Proposal: Add: “The Council conducts its business in public and publishes minutes of its meetings, votes, etc., unless the subjects matter requires confidentiality. The council makes a commitment to multilingual engagement in its internal and external communication.
- Yes: 24
- Explanation by Daniel Bravo: Everybody has to be informed – multilingual.
- A 17: Combined vote
- Introduction by Ziko: Two different amendments on this topic: A4 and A17.
- Explanation: to be added by Ziko.
- A4: 24
- A17: 2
- Explanation: to be added by Ziko.
2.) ELECTION
- Explanation by Sebastian:
- First meeting at Wikimania
- Interim “Secretary” (2 “official” people) until Wikimania: Prepare a program plan.
- Sebastian: The conditions for this work can change after Wikimania.
- Proposal: Sebastian: Specifics for interim Secretary General.
- Facilitate creation of a program plan and budget for 2012/13
- Present plan and budget at council meeting in Washington DC
- Follow up with chapters on joining and selecting a representative
- Call for nominations / candidates for first “regular” secretariat.
- Prepare first council meeting
- No compensation will be provided for services, costs will be reimbursed.
- Yes: 24
- Proposal: Not having an interim-SG having an interim-committee of four that takes over the specifics of the general.
- Yes: 19 No: 1
- Delphine: We have to make clear who is candidate for a committee before we can decide whether we want to build a committee or elect a general.
- Candidates:
- Tomer, Manuel, Craig, Frieda, Damian
- Candidates:
- Delphine: We have to make clear who is candidate for a committee before we can decide whether we want to build a committee or elect a general.
- Discussion about the election-system.
- Ziko: Proposal: One interim secretary-general is building the team. This is Tomer.
- Yes: 26 No: 0
- Tomer accepts.
- Ziko: Proposal: One interim secretary-general is building the team. This is Tomer.
3.) SIGN THE AGREEMENT
- 23 are in favour of this.
- 4 are not ready to join yet.
Difference: Members // State of support.