WikiJournal User Group/Meetings/2019-12-10
WikiJournal User Group
Open access • Publication charge free • Public peer review • Wikipedia-integrated
- Minutes originally drafted in Google doc and copied here after 48 hours
Attendees
editDate: 6:00 pm UTC, 10 December 2019
NB: First use of Jitsi in stead of Zoom.
- Mikael Häggström
- Kelee Pacion
- Scott Thomson
- Thomas Shafee
- Gwinyai Masukume
- Sarah Vital
- Alaa Najjar
- Thais Morata
- Candace Makeda Moore
- Lionel Scheepmans
- Shani Evenstein
Apologies:
Agenda
edit- Update on action items from July
- How best to advertise the $1,000 available for technical editor role? (Working group? Self-nominate)
- Contact OJS (Thomas)
- Create test extension for inter-wiki transclusion (Felipe)
- Non-editorial board member has applied to be Treasurer - how best to vet?
- Article formats (suggestions for new formats or improving existing ones)
- Dimensions and Altmetrics badges and readcube indexing X
- Sarah and Kelee talk about potential for presenting at ACRL 2021- engaging with librarians X
- Better ways to nominate next year’s Strategy Summit representative X
- Anything to add to 2019 report? X
- Priorities for 2020 X
- Update from Strategy Liaison X
X indicates items not discussed
Notes
edit- Technical editor role
- Page created with list of possible tasks
- Liaisons to check applications of possible technical editor(s) and help assign tasks
- Mikael and Scott added as current liaisons in action items
- To move ahead on vetting applicants
- Be aware of discussion points raised at previous meeting (e.g. pay per task vs per hour)
- Technical editor may need to be walked through task first couple of times before being able to independently perform assigned tasks
- Treasurer
- Needs vetting both for general project appropriateness as well as financial role experience - applicant applies in writing to the board who oversee the application and vet the applicant according to our criteria and select them
- application submitted to the editorial boards
- will require additional info re accountancy and financial skills
- Current de facto treasurer is Mikael Haggstrom, currently in Sweden, moving to USA
- Will need to set up USA bank account for journals user group
- and have new non-profit registration in US to replace current Swedish registration
- Society bank accounts typically have to have 2 or more co-signatories
- The rules around moving money internationally are currently in flux so may need to be aware of changes
- Needs vetting both for general project appropriateness as well as financial role experience - applicant applies in writing to the board who oversee the application and vet the applicant according to our criteria and select them
- From Meeting notes in OJS:
- The aims of a Wikimedia front end for article drafting and publication:
- Transparency and record-keeping
- Micro-versioning and contributor records
- Compatibility with Wikimedia ecosystem
- The aims of an OJS back-end:
- Workflow simplification and automation of currently manual steps
- Avoid reinventing wheel where possible
- Reduce learning curve for editors
- Reduce reliance on closed source tools (e.g. google forms)
- The aims of a Wikimedia front end for article drafting and publication:
- General support for OJS as back end so long as front end is retained
- Contact to OJS ask for quote for API development
- Put together grant application
- Support for better back end so long as it doesn’t duplicate work by making front-end harder
- Should also store metadata on Wikidata to populate items like this
- Backup option = structured forms on-wiki (wikipediajournal.com/Main_Page)
- Cross-wiki Transclusion
- Felipe has made an extension tool that can achieve this (discussion)
- only for full pages or sections (can’t omit or edit specific sections or templates)
- However this should be sufficient if we wish to transclude the whole or part of a wikipedia page submitted to a WikiJournal whilst it’s being peer reviewed
- Article formats (Initial discussion over at WikiJHum talkpage)
- Any suggested changes to current article formats?
- WikiJMed has matured to be able to handle original research submissions, What are lessons for the other WikiJournals?
- For articles to be integrated into Wikipedia, when to get Wikipedian feedback?
- At the end of the first round of peer review?
- For articles submitted from Wikipedia, can some systems be duplicated onto Wikipedia?
- Currently:
- Article copied over from WP, goes through peer review on wikiversity, then copied back over to WP
- Accepted articles get note added at top of references in wikipedia linking to reviewed version & reviewer comments
- For declined articles, we have added custom note to wikipedia article talkpage (example)
- Proposed E.g. :
- Links or cross-wiki transclusion to peer review comments on Wikipedia talkpages during peer review
- More prominent indication that article is undergoing external peer review on Wikipedia article talkpage
- Possibly enable option for all drafting to be done on Wikipedia
- Transclude live Wikipedia version during peer review
- Transclude/copy specific stable version upon acceptance and doi assignment
- Currently:
- Have fully open meeting once/twice per year (e.g. Feb and July?)
- Keep to summary/non-technical items
- Invite all authors, readers, assoc editors, other Wikimedia affiliates etc
- Planning for January meeting (Kelee will organize)
- Schedule 90 mins but still aim to keep to 60 mins?
- Specify chair (stricter timekeeping) and secretaries (notes and minuting)?
- Specify times per meeting item to better manage agenda?
- Start up sub-committees to break off into different meetings
- before/after/separate to main meeting
- Brainstorm alternative ideas- post them here if you come up with a model
- Best channels to organize through- slack, discord?, video, etc
Action items
edit- Share these minutes to metawiki with any confidential info redacted (Thomas)
- Organise next meeting (Kelee)
- Technical editor recruitment (Mikael Haggstrom, Scott Thomson)
- Investigate transfer of non-profit registration from Sweden to US (Mikael)
- Re-contact OJS to confirm request for quote estimate (Thomas)
- Confirm selection criteria for treasurer (Scott Thomson, )
- WikiJournal of Medicine: Re-apply for Scopus; Apply for PubMed Central (Gwinyai)
- Ensure Berlin strategy summit is top of next agenda (Thomas)