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أهلا MoiraMoira/archive ، ومرحبا بك في ويكيميديا ميتا ويكي! يعمل هذا الموقع على تنسيق ومناقشة كل مشاريع ويكيميديا. ربما سيكون مفيدا لك مطالعة صفحة السياسات هنا. إذا كنت مهتما بأمور الترجمة، راجع ميتا:بابلون. يمكنك أيضا ترك ملاحظة في ميتا:بابل (من فضلك راجع أولا التعليمات هناك قبل ترك الملاحظة). إذا أردت الاستفسار عن شئ ، لا تتردد في سؤالي في صفحة نقاشي. تمتع بالتحرير هنا!

Hola MoiraMoira/archive! Benvingut a la Meta-Wiki de la Fundació Wikimedia! Aquest lloc està fet per a coordinar i discutir tots els projectes de la Fundació Wikimedia. Potser us serà útil llegir la nostra pàgina de polítiques (en anglès). Si us interessen les traduccions, visiteu Meta:Babylon. També podeu deixar un missatge a Meta:Babel o al Meta:Metapub (però abans de fer-ho, llegiu les instruccions situades al principi de la pàgina). No dubteu en preguntar si teniu qualsevol dubte. Si cal ho podeu fer en la meva pàgina de discussió. Bona sort!

Vítejte, uživateli MoiraMoira/archive, a vítejte na Wikimedia Meta-Wiki! Tento server je určen pro spolupráci a diskusím ke všem projektům nadace Wikimedia. Možná si budete chtít přečíst naše pravidla. Pokud chcete spolupracovat na překladech, navštivte Meta:Babylon. Také můžete přidat příspěvek na Meta:Babel či Meta:Metapub (nejdříve si přečtěte pokyny na začátku těchto stránek). V případě potřeby se neváhejte zeptat se na mé diskusní stránce. Hodně štěstí!

Hallo, MoiraMoira/archive, und Willkommen bei Wikimedia Meta-Wiki! Diese Website ist zur Koordination und Diskussion aller Wikimedia-Projekte gedacht. Vielleicht findest du es nützlich, unsere Regelseite zu lesen. Wenn du daran interessiert bist, etwas zu übersetzen, besuche Meta:Babylon. Du kannst auch eine Notiz auf Meta:Babel oder Meta:Metapub hinterlassen (bitte lies die Anleitung am Anfang der Seite, bevor du etwas schreibst). Wenn du möchtest, kannst du mir auf meiner Diskussionseite Fragen stellen. Fröhliches Bearbeiten.

ވިކިމީޑިޔާގެ މީޓާ-ވިކީ އަށް މަރުހަބާ! މިވެބްސައިޓަކީ ވިކިމީޑިޔާގެ ހުރިހާ މަޝްރޫޢުތަކާއި ބެހޭގޮތުން ވާހަކަތައް ދެކެވި އެ މަޝްރޫޢެއް ހިންގައި ހަދާ ވެބް ސައިޓެވެ. އަޅުގަނޑުމެންގެ ޤަވާއިދުތައް ފުރަތަމަ ވިދާޅުވުމަކީ މުހިންމު ކަމެއް ކަމުގައި ދެކެމެވެ. ތަރުޖަމާކުރާ ހިތްޕުޅުވެވަޑައިގަންނަވާ ނަމަ މީޓާ:ބެބިލޯން އަށް ވަޑައިގަންނަވާށެވެ. އަދި ހަމަ އެހެންމެ މިކަމާއި ބެހޭ ލިޔުމެއް މީޓާ:ބޭބެލް ގައި ލިޔުއްވަވާށެވެ. (އެހެންނަމަވެސް އެޞަފްޙާގައި އެއްވެސް އެއްޗެއް އިތުރު ކުރެއްވުމުގެ ކުރިން އެ ޞަފްހާގެ މަތީގައިވާ ޢިބާރާތް ވިދާޅުވެލައްވާށެވެ.) މިއާއި މުދު ހިތްހަމަޖެހިވަޑައިގަންނަވާ ނަމަ އިތުރު އެހީ އަށް އެދުމަށް މި ޞަފްހާ ގައި އެދުމަށް ފަސްޖެހި ވަޑައި ނުގަންނަވާށެވެ. އުނިއިތުރު ގެނައުމުގައި އުފާވެރި ވަގުތުކޮޅެއް ހޭދަ ކޮށްލައްވާށެވެ!!

Hello MoiraMoira/archive, and welcome to the Wikimedia Meta-Wiki! This website is for coordinating and discussing all Wikimedia projects. You may find it useful to read our policy page. If you are interested in doing translations, visit Meta:Babylon. You can also leave a note on Meta:Babel or Meta:Metapub (please read the instructions at the top of the page before posting there). If you would like, feel free to ask me questions on my talk page. Happy editing!

Hola MoiraMoira/archive! Bienvenido a la Meta-Wiki de la Fundación Wikimedia! Este sitio es para coordinar y discutir todos los proyectos de la Fundación Wikimedia. Tal vez le sea útil leer nuestra página de políticas (en inglés). Si le interesan las traducciones, visite Meta:Babylon. También puede dejar un mensaje en Meta:Babel o Meta:Metapub (pero antes de hacerlo, por favor lea las instrucciones situadas en lo alto de la página). No dude en preguntar si tiene cualquiera duda, o pregunte en mi página de discusión. Buena suerte!

Hei MoiraMoira/archive, ja tervetuloa Wikimedian Meta-Wikiin! Tämä nettisivusto on kaikkien Wikimedia-säätiön projektien koordinointia ja keskustelua varten. Saattaa olla hyödyllistä lukea käytäntömme. Jos olet kiinnostunut käännöksistä, käy Meta:Babylon-sivulla. Voit myöskin jättää huomautuksen Meta:Babel, Meta:Metapub -sivulle (ole hyvä ja lue ohjeet sivun yläosassa ennenkuin kirjoitat sinne). Jos haluat, saat vapaasti kysyä minulta kysymyksiä keskustelusivullani. Iloisia muokkaushetkiä!

Bonjour MoiraMoira/archive, et bienvenue sur le Meta-Wiki de Wikimédia ! Ce site a pour but de coordonner et discuter de l’ensemble des projets Wikimédia. Il vous sera utile de consulter notre page sur les règles de Wikimédia. Si vous êtes intéressé par des projets de traduction, visitez Meta:Babylon. Vous pouvez aussi laisser un message sur Meta:Babel ou Meta:Metapub (mais veuillez d’abord lire les instructions en haut de cette page avant d’y poster votre message). Si vous le voulez, vous pouvez me poser vos questions sur ma page de discussion. À bientôt !

נכתב בלשון זכר למען הנוחות
היי MoiraMoira/archive, וברוך בואך ל- ויקימדיה מטא-ויקי! אתר זה נועד בכדי לתאם פעולות ולדון בפרויקטים של וויקימדיה. יש להניח שדפי המדיניות שלנו יהיו שימושיים עבורך. אם הנך מעוניין לבצע עבודות תרגום, בקר ב-Meta:Babylon. תוכל גם להשאיר הערה ב-Meta:Babel, Meta:Metapub, (אנא קרא את ההוראות בראש הדף לפני כתיבה שם). אם תרצה, הרגש חופשי לרשום לי שאלות בדף השיחה שלי. עריכה נעימה!

Helló MoiraMoira/archive, és üdv a Wikimedia Meta-Wikijén! Ez a weboldal az összes Wikimedia projektet érintő ügyek megtárgyalására és koordinálására szolgál. Hasznosnak találhatod elolvasni az irányelveinket (angolul). Ha szeretnél fordításokat végezni, látogasd meg a Meta:Babylon-t, vagy a Meta:Babel, Meta:Metapub, oldalon hagyhatsz üzenetet (mielőtt ide írsz kérlek olvasd el a lap tetején található utasításokat). Ha szeretnél, nyugodtan kérdezz tőlem a vitalapomon. Jó szerkesztést és tartalmas szórakozást! Jó szerkesztést és tartalmas szórakozást!

Ciao MoiraMoira/archive! Benvenuto sulla Meta-Wiki della Wikimedia Foundation! Questo sito serve a coordinare e discutere di tutti i progetti della Wikimedia Foundation. Potrebbe esserti utile leggere le nostre policy (in inglese). Se sei interessato a fare traduzioni, visita Meta:Babylon. Puoi anche lasciare un messaggio su Meta:Babel o Meta:Metapub (ma per favore, leggi le istruzioni che si trovano all'inizio della pagina prima di scrivere). Se vuoi, puoi lasciarmi un messagio nella mia pagina di discussione. Buona fortuna!

MoiraMoira/archiveさん、ウィキメディア メタ・ウィキへようこそ!このサイトは、ウィキメディアのプロジェクト間の調整や話し合いを目的としています。もしよろしければ、ポリシーページを是非ご一読下さい。もし翻訳に興味をお持ちなら、Meta:Babylonをご覧下さい。Meta:Babel, Meta:Metapub にメッセージを投稿していただくことも可能です(投稿前にページ上部の説明をお読み下さい)。もしよろしければ私のノートページに質問をお寄せ下さい。

MoiraMoira/archive님, Wikimedia Meta-Wiki에 회원가입하신 것을 환영합니다! 이 사이트는 모든 위키미디어 프로젝트들 간의 상호조정(coordinate)과 토론을 위한 공간입니다. 우리의 정책을 보면, 도움이 되실 겁니다. 만약 번역에 관심이 있으시다면, Meta:Babylon을 방문해 보세요. 또한 Meta:Babel, Meta:Metapub 을 사용하실 수도 있습니다. (사용하시기 전에 바벨의 사용설명란을 먼저 읽어주세요). 만약 궁금한 것이 있으시면, talk page에 질문을 올려주세요. 즐거운 편집이 되시길 바랍니다!

Hai MoiraMoira/archive, dan selamat datang ke Meta-Wiki Wikimedia! Laman web ini adalah untuk mengkoordinasikan dan membincangkan segala Projek-projek Wikimedia. Anda boleh mendapati bahawa membaca laman polisi kita adalah berfaedah. Jika anda berminat dalam membuat penterjemahan, sila melawat Meta:Babylon. Anda juga boleh meninggalkan pesanan di Meta:Babel atau Meta:Metapub (sila baca panduan di atas laman yang berkenaan sebelum meninggalkan pesanan). Jika anda mahu, tanyalah soalan di laman perbualan saya. Selamat menyunting!

Hallo MoiraMoira/archive, en welkom op de Wikimedia Meta-Wiki! Deze website is voor het coördineren en bespreken van alle Wikimedia-projecten. Waarschijnlijk vind je het handig om onze beleidpagina te lezen. Als je geïnteresseerd bent in het vertalen van teksten, ga da naar Meta:Babylon. Je kunt ook een bericht achterlaten op Meta:Babel of Meta:Metapub (lees wel de instructies aan het begin van de pagina voordat je een bericht achterlaat). Als je nog vragen hebt stel ze me dan op mijn overlegpagina. Veel plezier met bewerken!

Hei MoiraMoira/archive, og velkommen til Wikimedia Meta-Wiki! Denne siden er til for å diskutere og samordne alle Wikimediaprosjektene. Vil du vite mer om siden, kan vår policy-side komme til nytte. Er du interessert i å hjelpe til med oversettelser, besøk Meta:Babylon. Du kan også legge igjen en beskjed på Meta:Babel, Meta:Metapub (vær vennlig og les instruksjonene øverst på siden før du skriver noe der). Hvis du vil, er du velkommen til å stille spørsmål på min diskusjonsside. God redigering!

Cześć MoiraMoira/archive i witaj w projekcie Wikimedia Meta-Wiki! Ta strona została stworzona do koordynacji i dyskusji nad wszystkimi projektami Fundacji Wikimedia. Proszę Cię o przeczytanie naszych zasad. Jeżeli chcesz się zając tłumaczeniem stron, odwiedź Meta:Babylon. Możesz również zostawić notkę na stronie Meta:Babel, Meta:Metapub, (proszę jednak, abyś najpierw przeczytał instrukcje na górze tej strony). Jeżeli będziesz potrzebował pomocy zostaw komentarz na mojej stronie dyskusji. Miłego edytowania!

Olá MoiraMoira/archive! Seja bem-vindo ao Meta! Este site/sítio é dedicado à discussão e à coordenação de todos os demais projetos da Fundação Wikimedia. Talvez lhe seja útil ler a página contendo a nossa política (em inglês) antes de começar a editar. Se tiver dúvidas, sinta-se à vontade para me fazer perguntas em minha página de discussão, ou deixe uma mensagem para toda a comunidade na Babel, Meta:Metapub, a versão do Meta da Esplanada. Boa sorte!

Ciao MoiraMoira/archive, şi bine aţi venit la Wikimedia Meta-Wiki! Acest website este pentru coordonarea şi discuţiile tuturor proiectelor Wikimedia. Este folositor să citiţi pagina despre politica noastră.. Dacă sunteţi interesaţi de traducere, vizita-ţi Meta:Babylon. De asemenea puteţi lasa o notă pe Meta:Babel, Meta:Metapub, (vă rugăm citiţi instrucţiunile de la începutul paginii înainte de a posta acolo). Dacă ai întrebări, nu ezita să mă întrebi pe pagina mea de discuţii talk page. Editare cu succes!

Здравствуйте, MoiraMoira/archive, и добро пожаловать на Мета-вики фонда Викимедиа! Этот сайт предназначен для координации и обсуждения вопросов, связанных со всеми проектами фонда. Для начала предлагаю ознакомиться с правилами этого проекта. Если Вы заинтересованы в работе над переводами страниц Мета-вики и других материалов, посетите Meta:Babylon. Вы также можете обсудить различные вопросы на странице Meta:Babel или Meta:Metapub (пожалуйста, ознакомьтесь с инструкцией сверху, прежде чем писать). Если возникнут вопросы, не бойтесь задавать их мне на моей странице обсуждения. Удачи!

Tjeta MoiraMoira/archive, dhe mirësevin në Wikimedia Meta-Wiki! Ky vënd i rrjetës është për të koordinuar dhe diskutuar çdo projekt të Wikimediës. Mund ta gjësh të dobishme faqet e politikës sonë. Në qoftë se je duke interesuar në përkthime, vizitò Meta:Babylon. Mund të lësh një shënim në Meta:Babel ose Meta:Metapub (të lutem të lexosh përdorimet në fillim të fletës para se të postosh atje). Në qoftë se do, ndihu i/e lirë të më bsh pyetje në faqen time të diskutimit. Të auguroj një redaktim të këndshëm!

Здраво MoiraMoira/archive, и добро дошли на Викимедијин мета-вики! Овај сајт служи за координацију и дискусију око Викимедијиних пројеката. Вероватно ће Вам бити корисно да прочитате наше странице везане за политику рада. Ако сте заинтересовани за превођење, посетите Meta:Babylon. Можете такође и оставити поруку на страници Meta:Babel, Meta:Metapub (молимо погледајте упутства на врху те странице пре него што пошаљете свој коментар тамо). Ако имате неко питање, можете да ми поставите на мојој страници за разговор. Срећно уређивање!

Hej MoiraMoira/archive, och välkommen till Wikimedia Meta-Wiki! Meta är till för att diskutera och samordna alla Wikimedias projekt. Vill du veta mer om webbplatsen, kan vår policy-sida komma väl till pass. Är du intresserad av att hjälpa till med översättningar, besök Meta:Babylon. Du kan skriva diskussionsinlägg på Meta:Babel eller Meta:Metapub (läs instruktionerna överst på sidan innan du skriver något där). Om du vill, är du välkommen att ställa frågor på min diskussionssida. Lycka till med redigerandet!

வணக்கம் MoiraMoira/archive, விக்கிமீடியா மேல்விக்கி! இற்கு நல்வரவு. இவ்விணையத்தளமானது கூட்டாகச் சேர்ந்து விடயங்களை விவாதிப்பதற்கென உருவாக்கப் பட்டது. விக்கித்திட்டங்கள். நீங்கள் எங்களின் பாலிசிகளையும் பாலிசி பக்கம் படித்தறியலாம். நீங்கள் மொழிபெயர்பில் ஆர்வமுடையவராகின், Meta:Babylon ஐப் பார்வையிடவும். நீங்கள் Meta:Babel, Meta:Metapub இல் குறிப்பொன்றையும் விட்டுச் செல்லலாம். (பக்கத்தின் மேலேயிருக்கும் அறிவுறுத்தல்களை வாசித்தபின்னரே அங்கே செய்திகளை இடவும்). நீங்கள் விரும்பினால் எனது பக்கத்தில் செய்தியொன்றை விடவும் talk page. உங்கள் ஆக்கங்களை வரவேற்கின்றோம்!

MoiraMoira/archive, 你好!歡迎光臨維基媒體元維基!這個網站是為協調和討論所有維基媒體項目而設。我們的政策頁可能對您有用。如果您有興趣協助翻譯工作, 請參觀Meta:Babylon。你可在 Meta:Babel, Meta:Metapub 留下口訊 (張貼之前請先讀該頁上指示)。若有問題, 請在我的討論頁問我 。祝
編安!

--Herby talk thyme 13:20, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

FlauwEdit

Hoi,

Wat flauw hoor als je kritiek krijgt of iemand het niet met je eens is om ze dan te blokkeren en te verbannen. Of als mod een editwar te beginnen. Je zou een voorbeeldfunctie moeten hebben!

Groet.

Sterkebaktalk 13:11, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi, you have been blocked for six hours time out by me and then as a follow up since you kept going in a very unconstructive way three days on wiki-nl by a colleague for disruptive behavior. I do hope you can take the advice given by me on your talk page at heart and that we can again welcome you once your block period is over. Another piece of advice - do not transfer problems you have on wiki-nl to meta. MoiraMoira 16:45, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

SpijtbetuigingEdit

Beste MoiraMoira,

Vandaag heb ik een mail gestuurd met mijn spijtbetuiging.

Hopende erop dat dit op prijs wordt gesteld,

Met vriendelijke groet,

MMaerkk 18:54, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Please check your partEdit

Hi, I've added you name here. Please check your details there (the babel, IRC nick, and active from section), and include if any of the information is not included yet or added wrongfully. Thanks for your help. — Tanvir | Talk ] 08:18, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Accounts issueEdit

Hi Moira! I'd like to ask you a little favor that would help me to resolve an imbroglio. I'm trying to usurp a bunch of accounts some people created with the same name as mine (Striker) but never edited or did made a few edits then abandoned their accounts (more details). The Dutch Wikipedia is one of the involved projects. I should request the account usurpation through this page, but I'm not able to as it requires me to be logged in to edit the page. For such I'd need to create another account with a different name, and I don't wish to as I've been always personally against sock puppets. Could you write the request there for me?

Regards, Striker talk 05:07, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Hello Striker, I passed your request along to a local bureaucrat on nl-wiki here. Kind regards, MoiraMoira 17:44, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
Hello Striker, I was addressed here by MoiraMoira. I have put your request on nl-wiki. In Dutch, so you might be unable to read it. It says that the Dutch user Striker is asked if he objects to usurping of his account. This request can be found here. The Dutch user Striker is given two weeks to react. After this period the account can be taken over. I might be on wikibreak (holidays) by then, in which case I hope one of the other bureaucrats will take the necessary actions. Kind regards, Lymantria 19:18, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
Thank you for the help. Regards, Striker talk 20:50, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

nl:Categorie:Jurist: Advocaat, Rechter etc.Edit

Why did you do that: [1]?

nl:Categorie:Advocaat nl:Categorie:Rechter ‎ nl:Categorie:Notaris ‎ nl:Categorie:Openbaar aanklager ‎ to enter to -> nl:Categorie:Jurist: --Brox 12:46, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Please see your talk page for the explanation. You mis used sockpuppets to continue detrimental editing cross wiki. MoiraMoira 13:03, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
about nl:Categorie:Jurist? hm... --Brox 13:12, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
About many many things you did and redid misusing sockpuppets in the process as well. Please read your talk page and act wisely. MoiraMoira 17:57, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

You do not write about nl:Categorie:Jurist... Your statement is contrary to the logic of (legal). --Brox 18:12, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Why should I? You edited without knowledge of the language without insight in the existing legal cats structure and made mistakes. When asked to stop you did not. Instead you continued with sockpuppets repeatedly. I am very sorry but when you do continue you leave me no other option than ask for measures. I did so hope you would clean up your act and assumed good will, even when seeing you hold admin ship with two different accounts on three different wikiversion... MoiraMoira 18:26, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
nl:Categorie:Jurist - nl:Categorie:Advocaat nl:Categorie:Rechter ‎ nl:Categorie:Notaris ‎ - you made mistakes... --Brox 06:55, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

WarningEdit

[2] is completely unacceptable. You appear to be using meta to carry on a dispute with a user on your home wiki, where he was, at most, a very minor user, attempting to hold his very active admin account on his different home wiki hostage, to coerce him into complying with your demands. That is cross-wiki abuse, carrying a dispute from one wiki elsewhere. You have filed [3] with completely inadequate evidence to justify a global lock, and you have filed an RfC with nothing more than the inadequate evidence you provided in the global lock request, plus some comments from the lock request. It is offensive to copy comments from one location to another, comments are made in context and would not necessarily be made in another. Your copying makes it appear that those users commented in your RfC. This is disruptive. Please stop. --Abd 15:00, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

It seems you have been on vacation, I hope you have been enjoying it.
Because stewards reviewed the checkuser information on Brox/Dendrolo/Redagavimas -- acknowledged alternate accounts -- and found that the socking alleged here hadn't happened, that the original report was misleading, in that it reported "geolocation" as if it were "positive" or "probable," when geolocation under the circumstances is very weak, I went around and posted a correction to all the messages I found you had posted on various wikis about the nl.wiki incidents, which included citation of the original meta checkuser report that has been reviewed and corrected. Given that one of the three checkuser reports was explicit that the identification of Dendrolo with other socks was based on "the same mobile operator," which is similarly weak, if there is no user agent confirmation, you might consider the possibility that nl.wiki went too far, and that an indef block for what was, at core, one day of dispute, might be too much. Will you consider that? Thanks. --Abd 22:22, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
Hi Abd, I just returned from vacation indeed. I saw in the mean time other people also reported more socks and indeed - the cu results from nl-wiki were based on both IP data and user agant information so quite specific results. As for the RFC I followed advice and how to do this suggestions from two stewards I consulted about this difficult case before acting and notified the user also everywhere but was really straightforwrd since it was problematic editing cross wiki resulting in damage everywhere alas and the user was adressed several times by several people already. Kind regards. MoiraMoira 09:52, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
There are two separate issues, MoiraMoira. There are the acknowledged socks, B/D/R. These were, I believe, acknowledged quite a while ago and, of course, checkuser on them does come up with full ID, including user agent. It's all the other claimed socks that are shaky, with weak identification. I studied all the checkuser reports, and that's clear.(See [4], especially what is in collapse) A few of the reports were simply unclear, so it is not impossible that user agent matched, but in almost every case the reports were explicit as to the identification basis, and for the other alleged socks it was "geolocation" or "same mobile operator," and so the checkuser might say something like "probable." Which is very weak, and when I look at some of the socks, behaviorally they are quite different from Brox. However, this is all a distraction. I warned you about your behavior. Because of a problem at nl.wiki, you went cross-wiki -- and here -- and posted notices on Brox user pages, cross-wiki, that amount to personal attacks. That is "cross-wiki disruption," in itself.
A basic problem here has to do with the consequences of SUL integration. The Brox accounts are old, I think they predate SUL, though I'm not sure about that. When SUL came along, if accounts haven't been unified, if a user ends up with multiple SUL accounts, which is pretty easy to do, the user may then, through global log-in, be already logged in to a wiki, and it might be a different account than what he normally uses there. So edits may accumulate using different accounts. I've strongly suggested to Brox that he make the identification of his SUL accounts crystal-clear, and he's stated an intention to do that, and more, he wants to create a single name that he can use on all the wikis. That will take some time and work.
Brox, as Dendrolo, clearly made a serious mistake on nl.wiki, he failed to respond to requests to stop, because he believed he was "right." That can happen, sometimes, to the best of us. He was properly short-blocked, but the original block was only for 15 minutes, which was just about useless. From my understanding of good administrative practice, he should have been blocked for 24 hours minimum. If that didn't work, for 3 days, or maybe a week, etc. Instead it was from 15 minutes to indef/user talk page access not allowed. As an admin, I'd be looking to develop cooperation. There was another problem at nl.wiki: you had a content disagreement with him. You enforced your position. That's a set-up for him to believe that you are biased. I'd highly recommend being very clear about content decisions (whether or not a category is appropriate, in this case) and behavioral decisions (whether or not a user is unresponsive to consensus or policy). By mixing the two, by arguing with him that his content was bad, and then acting personally with respect to blocks, you set up conditions for him to disregard your warnings and blocks as biased. It won't be the first time this has happened!
As to the RfC, you were advised by a steward that if you want to globally lock an established user, particularly an active administrator, you'd need an RfC first. You were not actually advised to file one, nor was your actual filing what any steward would advise, it was just a copy of your unsuccessful global lock request, with some copied comments, and that looks like forum-shopping. To file a real RfC, that could do some good, you'd need much more evidence and careful analysis. You showed, in particular, no actual "cross-wiki disruption," and the evidence is clear to me, I've spent some days with this, that the only cross-wiki disruption out of this has been fallout from your own actions (and those of others on nl.wiki or largely coming from nl.wiki). Brox is only blocked on nl.wiki, and while there are a couple of blocks of the other two Brox SUL accounts, they are clearly a result of the nl.wiki action and CU here, without any actual local disruption. Generally, the accounts had not been editing!
Please be careful. Good luck. --Abd 17:20, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
Sorry, can't do much with the above long texts- when you want to solve the problems at hand be my guest, otherwise I hope you take care and perhaps can be a wee bit less judgemental next time you involve yourself in a problem and adress some one else out of the blue. My advice to you is become part of the solution at least. Kind regards, MoiraMoira 01:36, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
Take-home summary: checkuser of Brox/Dendrolo/Regadavimas came up positive because these are legitimate SUL accounts of the same user. Some socks were positive as socks of each other. Connection with B/D/R was weak, not IP/User agent, just same geolocation or service provider. No cross-wiki disruption from Brox. Some from you. It's been handled, as long as it isn't reasserted. And thanks. --Abd 02:19, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

Translation RequestEdit

Thank you for your help so far. Please help us finish the translation at Research:Wikipedia Editors Survey November 2011/nl. Thanks! Akhanna 22:06, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

BeveiligingEdit

Hoi MoiraMoira. Ik heb jouw GP hier op meta semibeveiligd voor onbepaalde tijd. Kan sowieso geen kwaad leek me, maar dit was de reden uiteraard. Trijnsteltalk 21:34, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

Mag wel weer want onze wikje blijft hier bezig. MoiraMoira (talk) 15:47, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
Graag opnieuw alsjeblieft. MoiraMoira (talk) 15:24, 26 April 2014 (UTC)

AlexLevyOne / AlbionEdit

Hello,

My name is Alexandre Gilbert. I would like to clean my name and try to make my virtual-life a better world. Is it possible ? Since I'm an art dealer and this whole information appearing online do not help me :)

French editors invited me on their talk page as fr:Utilisateur:Starus, fr:Utilisateur:Elfix, fr:Utilisateur:Hégéssipe Cormier or en:User:JohninDC and en:User:Deor in the US, before blocking me.

Is there a protocol program for people whose life was trolled for years, is it considered kidnapping, identity usurpation, virtual bashing or psychological harassment ?

I tried to ask en:User:Dennis Brown personnaly, considered to be the sockuppet specialist, who answered me :"YAWN". I also asked Hégéssipe Cormier whose answer was "Je flingue d'abord, je discute ensuite" (litteraly, "I shoot first and than I talk").

I listed three persons being in charge of the ALO/Albion file who are Hégéssipe Cormier in France. John in Dc and Deor in the States and you on the Metapedia.

What happens when a private comes to you with his own name to clean his life. I asked them if i needed a lawyer and they answered if you talk to the Justice we will have to block you.

Thank you for your answer.

Alexandre My personal website

Lack of user pagesEdit

Hi MoiraMoira!

As I have seen here, you used your GS bit on a wiki without having created a user page locally, though this is required by policy. Please catch up on that before somebody complains. :-) Cheers, Vogone talk 17:28, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

I know, usually when doing cross wiki vandalism issues I immediately create one. This must have slipped through. Done now. Thanx for the heads up. MoiraMoira (talk) 20:29, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Enquiry on the matter of User:TDKR Chicago 101Edit

Hello MoiraMoira,

it has come to the attention of some of my colleagues and I that you have blocked this user on 13 wikis, with varying reasons (mainly "Spam" and "Cross-wiki issues") for principally creating stubs across multiple projects. Please note that stubs are not spam, and they are not unwelcome. There is nothing wrong with the creation of stubs, and we most definitively do not block users for creating stubs.

This user seems to be a constructive contributor that means well, and most definitively your characterization of "adding stub pages without content only a picture or with a short english sentence only crosswiki" is quite inaccurate, as I have seen lots and lots of stubs with no English content whatsoever. If there is an issue with the user's edits, the user should be contacted about them, not out of the blue blocked after 6 months of performing such edits. In this case, the user seems to maintain an active presence on the Simple English Wikipedia, and any issues should be raised there (you contacted the user there but did not await a response before blocking). I have unblocked the user and I am of course interested in hearing your reasoning for blocking. Snowolf How can I help? 15:19, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

On an unrelated note, you're missing a userpage on ig:User:MoiraMoira. Snowolf How can I help? 15:33, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
Hello Snowolf, userpage created. The resaons of deletion were no useful content; not in the project language or incorrect, nor article content, wrong picture, wrong words, no words at all you name it. I notified the user on his talkpage on his home wiki version. Not all the blocks local were mine by the way so I trust you will also notify the colleagues who blocked him before I did on some wikiversions. I hope he will clean up his act now you unblocked him. Won't go there anymore for the time being. Kind regards, MoiraMoira (talk) 15:41, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
Hi, na:User:MoiraMoira too. Yes, he had created stubs with no content but pictures and name of the subject. But is that a reason to block his account at another wiki where he hasn't edited for a long time or at a wiki where there was only one edit by that user? As for the block at gvwiki, that was by a local sysop after several warnings. nawiki block was, as the block reason states, due to "creating useless articles not in Nauruan". --Glaisher (talk) 16:30, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
Hello again Moira. I did not ask for the reasons for deletions, tho those could also be discussed. I am very concerned about the reasons for the blocks, as the ones provided in the logs are factually incorrect and the blocks were issued without any warnings to the user, without allowing for a chance for them to explain themselves and weeks or months after the user's last edits to the various projects. The so-called notification you issued to the user is dated from today, a full day after some of the earlier blocks and This is not how a global sysop ought to act, and it is very concerning to me to see you don't seem to understand the problem with your actions. (note that those who blocked him before you did so almost a year ago, in different circumstances, and mostly dealing with the socking issues on enwiki). Now allow me to provide a detailed summary of what happened:
I note the following summary:
  • pagwiki Last edit by user: 00:01, 27 March 2014; blocked on 13:44, 2 July 2014
  • wowiki Last edit by user: 02:34, 20 December 2013; blocked on 07:02, 3 July 2014
  • novwiki Last edit by user: 03:35, 22 May 2014; blocked on 07:46, 3 July 2014
  • igwiki Last edit by user: 03:18, 22 May 2014; blocked 06:50, 3 July 2014
  • bclwiki Last edit by user: 03:44, 22 May 2014; blocked on 10:08, 3 July 2014
  • cbk-zam Last edit by user: 05:08, 13 April 2014; blocked on 11:57, 3 July 2014
  • pdc Last edit by user: 03:41, 22 May 2014; blocked on 06:52, 3 July 2014
    • pdc:Bryan Cranston 03:41, 22 May 2014; appears to be in Pennsylvania German and with the correct picture
In none of these wiki was the user spamming. I listed the most recent edits for these wikis as they appear kosher to me. Please note that there is no global policy prohibiting short articles/stubs, and these do appear to be translated. Obviously, I don't speak the specific languages and so I cannot check on whether it is indeed the correct language or not, but they certainly appear to be. Please feel free to correct me if I'm mistaken, but as it looks to me, none of these blocks are even remotely appropriate. If you had any concerns about this user's activity, politely contacting them would have been the correct avenue, blocking them was not. Snowolf How can I help? 17:27, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
Thank you for your reply and feedback. You are right. Blocking without warning was not a good idea I have learned this now and won't act this way anymore. Thank you for your unblocking. Kind regards, MoiraMoira (talk) 21:01, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

Superprotect letter updateEdit

Hi MoiraMoira,

Along with more hundreds of others, you recently signed Letter to Wikimedia Foundation: Superprotect and Media Viewer, which I wrote.

Today, we have 562 signatures here on Meta, and another 61 on change.org, for a total of 623 signatures. Volunteers have fully translated it into 16 languages, and begun other translations. This far exceeds my most optimistic hopes about how many might sign the letter -- I would have been pleased to gain 200 siguatures -- but new signatures continue to come.

I believe this is a significant moment for Wikimedia and Wikipedia. Very rarely have I seen large numbers of people from multiple language and project communities speak with a unified voice. As I understand it, we are unified in a desire for the Wikimedia Foundation to respect -- in actions, in addition to words -- the will of the community who has built the Wikimedia projects for the benefit of all humanity. I strongly believe it is possible to innovate and improve our software tools, together with the Wikimedia Foundation. But substantial changes are necessary in order for us to work together smoothly and productively. I believe this letter identifies important actions that will strongly support those changes.

Have you been discussing these issues in your local community? If so, I think we would all appreciate an update (on the letter's talk page) about how those discussions have gone, and what people are saying. If not, please be bold and start a discussoin on your Village Pump, or in any other venue your project uses -- and then leave a summary of what kind of response you get on the letter's talk page.

Finally, what do you think is the right time, and the right way, to deliver this letter? We could set a date, or establish a threshold of signatures. I have some ideas, but am open to suggestions.

Thank you for your engagement on this issue, and please stay in touch. -Pete F (talk) 18:20, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

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