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Hi, can you remove Erwin from the access list and add erwin85? The latter is my IRC nick. The former I don't know. Thanks. Erwin(85) 09:23, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

It is by account, not nick. Whenever you have +e (identified to services), you're listed as logged in to an account. Yours is Erwin, regardless what your nick or cloak is. I suppose you could change that if you like.  — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 19:12, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
My IRC account is erwin85 as well. Erwin was already taken. (-NickServ- Information on erwin85 (account erwin85):) --Erwin(85) 10:59, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
As I recall, I used /whois... but I may well have been wrong. Changing that now...  — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 16:17, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Spam sites which are no spam, disapointed in Wiki

It seems that some people think that my sites are spam sites. This is not true.They are all non commercial sites....I am not try to sell antyhing !!!

My Prince Valiant site is only for the true PV fan. Nothing commercial. Only info!!!!!!!!!!!!! My 8th militia site is only about the Dutch 8th militia, a superb and rich source of information, free of charge, and I get compliments from readers all over the world. The Forestry Service Group is is a site where developing organisations in third world countries can get FREE technical assistance. I am not selling anything!

It seems that nobody takes the effort to take a close look at the sites. I am very very disapointed at Wiki and the way where private auditors can delete what they want. Marco Bijl Nov, 2008

My blacklist code (whatever it means)

\bprincevaliant\.net\b # ADMINNAME # addition; see User:COIBot/XWiki/

I see you've already started some discussion there, as appropriate.  — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 16:35, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

See further reaction on the link address above.

Dear Editor, since you blacklisted my contributions to the Prince Valiant site my page is also completely gone from Google. It was for over 6 years in the top 5, and now it's gone. Is google bot somehow related to Wiki? If so, then this is a major disaster for the site. And I like to ask you one more time to at least whitelist PV for me. I will not place any more links from now on and will do it throughout the talk pages (I simply didn't knew before, if I new the risks of blacklisting I had never placed the links on the main pages ofcourse!!).

While Google indexes our sites, all our links have rel=nofollow such that linking does not affect search engine ranking. Therefore, any change in your search engine ranking is due to other factors.
Typically, we do not remove domains from the spam blacklist in response to site-owners' requests. Instead, we de-blacklist sites when trusted, high-volume editors request the use of blacklisted links because of their value in support of our projects. If such an editor asks to use your links, I'm sure the request will be carefully considered and your domain may well be removed.
Until such time, this request is   Declined. — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 18:33, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Did I figure it out?

No, I never figured it out. And Firefox CAN'T open irc links. It says it doens't know how to open the irc protocal. How do I fix this? --Marshall Williams2 00:37, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Do you have Chatzilla installed? You need an IRC client.  — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 02:36, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

SBHandler comments

Hi, I modified SBHandler to allow for custom comments. You need to add the following to your monobook.js to get rid of the "--".

SBHandlerAddComment = '{{Added}} ~~~~'; 
SBHandlerRemComment = '{{Removed}} ~~~~'; 
SBHandlerRevComment = 'Reverted ~~~~'; 
SBHandlerDecComment = '{{Declined}} ~~~~';

--Erwin(85) 11:38, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

YAY, thanks.  — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 16:35, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Stop it

I don't know what your problem is, but stop it. I'm doing nothing wrong. --Sapphic 17:17, 16 November 2008 (UTC)


Mike, I really really skrewed up the wikibooks logo page by moving it. I'm not an administrator so I cannot delete my mess. Can you please help me? Thank you. See my move log and revert everything.--penubag 04:07, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Holy crap.  — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 17:55, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
OK, so voting can take place at Wikibooks/Logo - that's fine.
A bunch of redirects have to get deleted though, fixing incoming links.  — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 17:58, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, too late to revert the moves, but the rest is sorta-cleaned up.  — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 18:04, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
Yes, I really skrewed up. I tried to fix my mistake but I would have to have been able to delete redirects, which I can't do. Thank you so much for fixing it so nicely. I started sweating there for a sec. --penubag 03:46, 18 November 2008 (UTC)


I'm sorry I don't know what silliness you're talking about.--MrIPAddress 20:04, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Nonsense with templates on several wikis, for example. You need to stop.  — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 20:07, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
For example? Is there anything else I've screwed up?--MrIPAddress 20:11, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
You know perfectly well. Please stop.  — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 20:13, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
Actually, I do not know. Please tell me what I am doing wrong.--MrIPAddress 20:15, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Licensing status

You made an astute comment in regard to this page on the Forum. Do you think it should be RFD'd? —Anonymous DissidentTalk 14:12, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Well, it {{looks useless}} to me :)  — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 18:14, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

sysops can see more?

If I am not logged in and load Spam_blacklist/Log, the newest entries are of October. There is no November. But on Spam_blacklist/Log/2008 November exists. Bug or feature? This problem only occurs, if I'm not logged in. -- seth 23:49, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Probably you're seeing cached data. Anonymous users are served aggressively-cached data (up to 30 days) for performance reasons. You can purge the server cache, or login (or both).  — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 23:52, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
Right. I was debugging my script for more than one hour, because [1] did only show the first two log entries...
So, I guess, my script must use the parameter action=purge everytime. -- seth 00:15, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
No... you should use api.  — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 00:28, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
How? I work on the HTML code. Or do you mean, I shall use the api for purging only? -- seth 00:38, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
&action=parse give you html.  — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 00:42, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
But then a have to send two requests again: (not working?)
don't I?
Why is that better than a POST request with submit=OK?
Sorry for those questions, but I'm not used to mediawiki-programming. -- seth 00:55, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

No, you log in and then use parse (since you won't be getting aggressively-cached data, you don't need to purge the server cache).  — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 00:58, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

When I use the API-login, anybody who sees the source code could abuse it. But I want to put the source code on the tool server in near future. -- seth 01:05, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
On the tool server mailing list Platonides said, would be the preferred way to get wp-content, so I'll ask there, whether this tool is able to purge somehow. Thanks for now. -- seth 01:21, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
I don't see how the code could be abused. The password should certainly not be public! But, if you're running on the toolserver, wikiproxy is the best way to get content, yes.  — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 03:07, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
As far as I understood the api-manual, one has to use an unencrypted password in the source code. So anybody, who has the right to view the source, could see the password. Even if this were just a few server admins, it would be a security hole. -- seth 08:35, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
No, the password shouldn't be in the source code for anyone to see. If need be, you can have it get the password from shell when you start the program or something. Perhaps ask for some help in #wikimedia-toolserver.  — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 18:31, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
As far as I know you can't purge WikiProxy. It simply uses a replicated database. This also means that it will be limited by the replication lag. I do suggest using WikiProxy, but you might offer getting the text directly from meta as an alternative. In that case you can simply login once with a bot or sockpuppet and store the cookie. --Erwin(85) 21:15, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
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