Talk:Single User Login finalisation announcement/Archives/2013-09

Attribution issue

This might not be the best place to ask this but I was wondering how the finalisation of SUL would affect the issue discussed here. Ostensibly I have had edits transwikied from enwiki to dewiki but which now show up in the contributions of the German User:Woody. (Bugzilla bug 13798) Will the finalisation leave those edits permanently attributed to de:User:Woody? Woody (talk) 22:48, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

Go to de:Special:Export and export all revisions of the pages with imported edits. Search for your revisions in the XML file. You should see one of the following:

<contributor><username>Woody</username><id>0</id></contributor>
<contributor><username>Woody</username><id>29426</id></contributor>

If it says <id>0</id>, then the edits will, as far as I have understood, remain attributed to "Woody", regardless of whoever controls that user name. On the other hand, if it says <id>29426</id>, then the edits will, as far as I have understood, become attributed to "Woody~dewiki". --Stefan2 (talk) 23:12, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

Translation of email confirmation request

Pgehres let us know that global accounts with clashing local accounts with get emails to let them merge all they can, to reduce the number of users to be renamed. There aren't many translations though[1]; you can translate the two messages on translatewiki.net. --Nemo 23:11, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Have these e-mails already been sent? I think the Dutch version definitely needs improvement, the present text is confusing. But apparently this mail text is not on a Wikimedia site but on Translatewiki, a site which I did not know up to now. Bever (talk) 22:04, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

Hello Bever, the emails have not been sent yet so you are still on time. Don't worry about translatewiki.net, it's easy to get started: use translatewiki:Special:FirstSteps if you didn't already. That's where all software translations happen. Thanks for reviewing the translation. --Nemo 17:43, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

The main reason for changing the translation was the problematic translation of the word 'account' in the old version; also the second paragraph was incomplete and incorrect. I was a bit liberal with my revision, though, breaking up the second paragraph for better readability. It seems that the user messages have sometimes rather long sentences which I deem to be better readable in Dutch when I break them up. I don't know whether this is due to a difference between Dutch and English, or to the personal writing style of the person who wrote these messages.

I have 2 questions about the text:

1. The message says, "your main account being on {{SITENAME}}". As I understand it, this 'magic word' would show as 'Wikipedia' or 'Wiktionary' or so in most cases, without indication of the language version. Does this make sense, and is it useful information, or is it meant to be, for example, en.wikipedia.org or 'the English language Wikipedia'?
2. The message also says, "Your email address has been set as associated with the account "$2" on all Wikimedia projects". This is only true if there are no conflicting accounts. So will this message be sent on 'finalisation day', when all conflicting accounts already have been renamed? My first impression was that the message would be send before, to decrease the number of account clashes before the final finalisation. Bever (talk) 20:59, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

Hello Bever! Thanks for your translation. You are free to translate as you see fit; the English source however was prepared by the WMF so you should ask them (when they decide who's going to work on this). Now to your two questions.

1. The Single User Login finalisation announcement/Personal announcement contains one "magic word" which is just a placeholder, {{WIKI}}: this is a notice on the talkpage of each involved local account, so it will be replaced with the suffix corresponding to each local wiki.
2. The documentation at MediaWiki:Centralauth-finishglobaliseemail body/qqq doesn't tell, but I think we can assume only one email will be sent for each global account with an email address: so what "SITENAME" resolves to is not particularly important, it only says that there is a global account; the subdomain will presumably be in link $3. Usernames without any global account, or emails associated only to local account(s), won't receive that email, but only the (later, per-wiki) talk page notification; I agree this is not super-clear from the text, but I'm not sure how it could be expressed in a compact and understandable way. If one doesn't understand and doesn't act, they'll receive the further notification as a reminder... --Nemo 10:00, 27 September 2013 (UTC)