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What are Wikimedia User Groups...Edit

...one would think with so many passionate encyclopedists around that they would also make sure to have a simple explanation of What are Wikimedia User Groups...but it looks like self-describing comes last :-) I will try with one-liner: Wikimedia User Groups are (most often informal) groups of Wikimedians that have formal recognition as affiliated.

Wikimedia movement affiliates..."are independent, but formally recognized, groups of people intended to work together to support and contribute to the Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia Foundation's Board of Trustees has approved three active models for movement affiliates: chapters, thematic organizations, and user groups. Wikimedia: "User groups have less formal requirements than chapters and thematic organizations. They support and promote the Wikimedia projects locally or on a specific theme, topic, subject, or issue. Once they are recognized by the Affiliations Committee, they enter into a "User Groups Agreement and Code of Conduct" with the foundation."

So if we want to go in direction of being a recognized Usedr group it would be good to start that process sometimes soon, ideally to close it this spring. Zblace (talk) 15:51, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

ČPP (često postavljana pitanja):Edit

Pitanja koje se nemogu lako raspravljati na engleskom.

Koja je jezična instanca Wikipedije 'vaša'?Edit

  • Pitanje je praktično ali može biti postavljeno i tendenciozno u svrhu svrstavanja. Nije baš informirno jer svi Wikipedija projekti su u javnoj domeni pa nisu samo nečiji već od svih koji sudjeluju. Iskreno nisam siguran da se mogu 100% identificirati i sa jednom potpuno, ali čini mi se da mi jezik a posebno jezična politika (ili još gore politikanstvo u jeziku) nije visoki prioritet. Mislim da ima brdo loših rasprava o tome i puno manje zanimljivih. Probat ću dodati neke ovdje korisnije ovdje: Ime naše Wikipedije, SH Wikipedija 2013. Zblace (talk) 11:21, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
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Planing first online meeting next week...Edit

...focusing on basic meeting each other, understanding of shared aims, but maybe also coordination and planning first activities in December. My strong preference is to do it on Tuesday early evening (CEE timezone), but maybe also Wednesday and Thursday can be an option. Would you be able to join? Notifications PINGing @DayonScallywag: @Kiril Simeonovski: @Miranche: @NaucnicaCG: @MaschaU: @Dvidov: Can you? Zblace (talk) 08:51, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

Viewing things togetherEdit

Proposal #1Edit

If you have some time in next 3 days I would recommend live video stream of online workshop: Non-Aligned Movement & Socialist Yugoslavia: social, cultural, political and economic imaginaries https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q105649285 Notifications PINGing @DayonScallywag: @Kiril Simeonovski: @Miranche: @NaucnicaCG: @MaschaU: @Dvidov: Zblace (talk) 22:23, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

Need help and advises with page formatting...Edit

Hey folks I would like to format page better so it is compatible with the pages of existing Wikimedia User Group pages on Meta, as well as to make it available for translation but without dropping existing content. Any ideas, advises and help is much appreciated! Zblace (talk) 08:26, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

Kirile upomoć! :-) Zblace (talk) 19:46, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
Napravio sam neke manje izmjene i usto sam dodao jezičnu traku i kategoriju. Čini mi se da stranica i ne manjka nešto previše u odnosu na ostale. Mogli bismo možda vizualizirati je bolje, no za to nam trebaju odgovarajuće slike ili bar logo.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 23:35, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
Bravo Kiro! Super brz i super oko za detalje! :-) Slažem se za vizuale...ja sam primarno vizualni tip, ali kako nismo imali razgovor o tome nisam ništa htio gurati nabrzinu. Započet ću tu temu! Zblace (talk) 15:49, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
Kiro ipak trebamo postaviti još nešto da bi se moglo prevoditi (bar moj interface to ne odobrava)...možeš li dodati pro forma za Makedonski? Unaprijed Hvala! Zblace (talk) 11:25, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

Visuals to addEdit

As Kiril suggested it would be good to have some visuals and maybe distinct logo and style of writing our name. Any ideas what could be possibe directions? I love variable logos and style guide of ART+FEMINISM group on commons, though I doubt we can and do as much soon :-) Zblace (talk) 12:39, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Interesting visual that maybe works well regionally from UDIK:
 
'Nationalism kills.' 3 standards
Zblace (talk) 11:44, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 
Balkan sans for sh.wikipedia
Interesting typeface as script hybrid. Zblace (talk) 21:09, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Code of ConductEdit

As WMF and Wikimedia movement discuss form and operability of Universal Code of Conduct I would actually propose for su to consider adopting (internally) ((even)) more progressive Berlin Code of Conduct! https://BerlinCodeOfConduct.org/ Zblace (talk) 22:30, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

Interesting historic readsEdit

Croatian Wikipedia Disinformation Assessment-2021Edit

Croatian Wikipedia Disinformation Assessment-2021 is published after several months of research, with some interesting content insights, but also IMHO non-amazing problem analasys or proposals for follow-up actions. --Zblace (talk) 12:47, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

maybe better wordingEdit

  1. exPatYUGOdiasporas is a wiki community in existence since [date]. It is in the process of developing an unconventional Wikimedia Affiliate (User Group). --93.142.143.235 09:28, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

Simplify the nameEdit

I think we could come up with a more digestible name for this future group, and shouldn't spare spaces. Thought about this because "ExPat" is redundant with "diasporas", and also because many of us interested in this aren't in diasporas. My suggestion is: "Ex-YU Wikimedia User Group" (#ExYUWikimediaUserGroup) - following the naming form of all formal Wikimedia user groups -Vipz (talk) 14:21, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

Thank you @Vipz - I do understand it is complex, but I think expat aspect is different than diasporic one and it is important for those who are non-exYU people by origin or just generationaly but feel affection and appreciation to the unique complex context of exYU. : Also there are people who never moved from teritory of exYU but political 'reorganization' had them feel expatriated and alienated. Therefore maybe complex is adequate ;-) I think short code that every affilaite has could be WMxYU - No? ;-)
BTW You are welcome to join and sign up on the page :-)
--Zblace (talk) 05:16, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
@Zblace: Which short codes are you referring to? -Vipz (talk) 11:37, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
@Vipz for example Art+Feminism is A+F...others have other types of codes...check out diverse User Groups for inspiration :-) https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_movement_affiliates#wugs -- Zblace (talk) 06:11, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
I didn't know about that, thank you! WMxYU sounds good to me, where "x" can stand both for "ex" and the "crossover". -Vipz (talk) 01:28, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
@Vipz exactly! You are welcome :-) -- Zblace (talk) 08:35, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
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