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Strategy/Wikimedia movement/2017/Sources/Vietnamese wikipedia community talk

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What group or community is this source coming from?

name of group Vietnamese Wikipedia and Wikibooks
virtual location (page-link) or physical location (city/state/country)
Location type (e.g. local wiki, Facebook, in-person discussion, telephone conference) local wiki
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1 Wikipedia becomes the convenient reference for students and pupils anywhere. We need to encourage IPs to contribute more. voluntary, credibility, reputability
2 Vietnamese wikipedia has a lot of articles but the quality of articles is still under-par. Most articles are stubs. We need more articles. quality, quantity, reliability
3 Wikipedia has so many rules and too difficult for newbies. You need to be an IT expert to edit the code of an article. Some newbies turn to vandalizing out of frustration. user-friendliness, vandalism, tolerance
4 Some experts would like to contribute to wikipedia, but their inexperience in Wikipedia codes brings them bad conflicts and confusion, and they leave Wikipedia forever. contribution, user-friendliness
5 The more contributions, the more vandalism. Hopefully there will be some technical solution for that. vandalism, management
6 The more contributions, the more advertisements. Hopefully the admins will be more strict on these articles. advertisements, quality, management
7 Wikipedia Asian Month has finished successfully (240 new articles created in 2016). We should create similar events frequently, since competition spirit and a foreign postcard/certificate can do wonder. But we need meta people to do this for us to protect our privacy and to ensure fairness. events, article creation, acknowledgement
8 A Teahouse should be created to train IPs on Vietnamese Wikipedia about the five pillars, to reduce unnecessary frustrations and conflicts. user-friendliness
9 Promote wikipedia on universities and to create a group/association in Vietnam to unite efforts. Trouble is, the Vietnamese government may not allow such association to be registered officially. awareness, promotion
10 Increasing the quality of the article is a good way to unite community efforts and get better community involvement awareness, community, quality

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1 Students who tried to look up wikipedia when they work with their thesis. Wikipedia is where the students come to when they like to learn or to research something. awareness, knowledge
2 A lot of articles mean not much when we cannot cover all aspects of life quality, quantity
3 According to this statistics IP contributes 10% to viwiki , equally 1/3 of contributions of registered accounts. anonymous contributions
4 Students don't know that they can edit wikipedia perception, awareness
5 Students are told that they may not use Wikipedia as references, so they give up on wikipedia awareness, reference, perception
6 Wikipedia offline app is a good idea, though the download file is too big. awareness, utility
7 Vietnamese teahouse should be created. newbie, training
8 Although wikipedia is contributed by free contributors, an acknowledgment will go a long way and make people stay longer with the site. acknowledgment, contributor, meaning
9 We don't have enough people to update all articles with up to date information. update, human sources
10 Young contributors are dynamic and full of energy but lack of experience to solve conflicts contributor, experience, conflict
11 Old contributors are too rigid and difficult to collaborate in a all-is-equal-footing community like wikipedia. collaboration, community
12 Wikipedia admin and management is too rigid. management, tolerance
13 You have to learn so many things just to edit wikipedia. awareness, perception, learning
14 People are turned off in the first experience, mostly by copyright infringement warnings issued by wikipedia (they don't know how to fill commons' requirements) perception, newbie
15 We should advertise about wikipedia on social networks to attract new contributors awareness, reach, newbie
16 In order to contribute, one should have very deep knowledge about the subject, which is difficult. competence, knowledge
17 Wikipedia SHOULD expand to become more than a encyclopaedia, we should integrate with social networks so that wikipedia can be more known and more discussed about perception, awareness
18 Wikipedia SHOULD NOT mingle with social networks, we already have the discussion page for the discussion purpose. Not mention our privacy. perception, awareness
19 Wikipedia management (admins, eliminators) are too rigid management, user-friendliness
20 The mathematic syntax for equations are too difficult to understand user-friendliness
21 Wikipedia will be the main force in education and culture learning, but the vandalism will be more frequent. vandalism, education, culture
22 In 2030, Google translate will be so good that only English wikipedia will be needed, all the small wikipedias will be translated or lesser in importance. vision, relevance
23 Make an assignment of Vietnamese university/college students to improve a specific wikipedia article within their abilities. outreach, collaboration
24 Make a Contest Month of Nature Science to create new articles and improve existing articles on nature sciences. We need Wikimedia to help to collect all addresses, for privacy protection contest, quality, quantity, collaboration
25 We need more sources to improve articles of science. Due to Wikipedia requirement of sources, most of wikipedia articles are about showbiz and politics, since all newspapers are focused on showbiz, films and politics, not much about sciences information source, quality
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