Steward requests/Permissions/2020-10

Administrator access


I would like to prolong my admin-status to deal with spam, trolls and manage to keep the site intact. Thanks a lot! Zylbath (talk) 15:29, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

  On hold until 2 October 2020 Ruslik (talk) 21:02, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
  Granted for 1 year to expire on 2021-10-02. To prolong your (interface) adminship, please start another election a few days before your temporary access expires, and after a week post your request again to this page. Thanks. —Thanks for the fish! talkcontribs 16:23, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

Omarov M.@av.wikipedia

At the moment, Avar Wikipedia does not have an active administrator, so there are some problems. In particular problems of a technical nature. There are also issues related to restricting access to editing some templates. Therefore, please provide the administrator status. I am familiar with the administrator rights and General rules. Omarov M. (talk) 16:02, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

  Granted for 6 months to expire on 2021-04-09. To prolong your (interface) adminship, please start another election a few days before your temporary access expires, and after a week post your request again to this page. Thanks. Ruslik (talk) 20:40, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

NGC 54@ro.wikisource

Please put it on hold until 9 October 2020. --NGC 54 (talk / contribs) 11:59, 1 October 2020 (UTC)

  On hold until 9 October.--Wim b 16:20, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
  Granted for 6 months to expire on 2021-04-09. To prolong your (interface) adminship, please start another election a few days before your temporary access expires, and after a week post your request again to this page. Thanks. --Wim b 21:17, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

Synoman Barris@sw.wiktionary

Requesting admin rights on this wiki. Recently I and another user realised that there were some language in accuracies on the Wiki. These bad pages would need to be deleted. I also want to translate some pages in the MediaWiki namespace . There has been no active admin or crate or some time now. I have also invited some university students to help me in cleaning up the Wiki and these rights would be useful to save the Wiki.Thanks --Synoman Barris (talk) 22:35, 1 October 2020 (UTC)

  Comment Translating MediaWiki in the MediaWiki namespace is not a good idea: is the proper way how to translate MediaWiki. --Martin Urbanec (talk) 12:20, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
I concur with what Martin has said, sometimes a wiki already has some local translations that actually have to be deleted to use the ones from Translatewiki but that is not the case here. As to the rest of the things I do not see issues, the request is   On hold until October 8 for the vote to last for 1 week. --Base (talk) 12:57, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
Thanks Base and Martin Urbanec I never really knew translation wiki existed and the vote also seems to be over. Since there are no crats there, I would appreciate it if one of you closed the discussion. Cheers --Synoman Barris (talk) 14:15, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

  Granted for 3 months to expire on 2021-01-10. . Synoman Barris, given that you are extremely new to the project and the concerns voiced about your command of the language, I have to go with the standard 3 months we normally give for new temporary sysops (for the context, the user has asked me for 6 months on my talk page). About a week before the end date you will have to run another vote to prolong your adminship. Feel free to ask any questions, and as mentioned, for interface translations please use instead, please be aware that the translations made there will appear on your wiki with a lag of a couple of days though. --Base (talk) 19:56, 10 October 2020 (UTC)


I was temporary assigned twice, I want a renew to continue in helping to keep the project safe. Em-mustapha User | talk 06:42, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

  On hold until 2020-10-10. --Sotiale (talk) 06:55, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
  Granted for 1 year to expire on 2021-10-10. -- Sotiale (talk) 22:17, 10 October 2020 (UTC)


For my bot account we are requesting admin privilages. Balyozxane (talk) 04:01, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
  Done Ruslik (talk) 16:27, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Абдырашит Сатылганов@ky.wikipedia

Hello, my term of office as an administrator has expired, I tried very hard to fight against vandalism, at the moment this section needs an administrator. Абдырашит Сатылганов (talk) 17:44, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

As a side note, there seems to be a main namespace page ky:Уикипедия:Администратор макамына арыз берүү which duplicates ky:Wikipedia:Администраторду шайлоо and should be merged with it. --Base (talk) 19:10, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

And there is also another mainspace ky:Requests for adminship… Note that both are counted as articles. --Base (talk) 19:20, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

Абдырашит Сатылганов, could you confirm that the page Администраторду шайлоо is known to the community? Per above mess I see that ky:Wikipedia:Администраторлор does not link to it, and as to Wikipedia:Жамаат порталы, it is only linked there in some old thread. I see that you did notify some of the community members on their talk pages though. --Base (talk) 19:27, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

Yes ky:Wikipedia:Администраторду шайлоо , this page is active, but a large number of similar pages are associated with different opinions of users and administrators. We still don't have a single rule. Over the past 2 years, the number of active users has dropped sharply, and now there are practically none.

  Granted for 6 months to expire on 2021-04-14. Абдырашит Сатылганов, it seems that this is indeed the page your previous adminship went through, also it is the most watched one, so I am accepting this as the right place. Sometimes people create nominations no one but the people they have told know about, so I wanted to make sure that this is not the case here. It would be very nice if you could resolve this mess, so that there is only one requests for adminship page. Please keep in mind though that "Уикипедия" is currently not a namespace name in Kyrgyz Wikipedia, so pages starting with such prefix, or with no prefix like ky:Requests for adminship, are technically considered regular articles just like ky:Антарктида is. It is possible to have "Уикипедия" instead of" Wikipedia", for this you have to follow the procedure described at MyLanguage/Requesting wiki configuration changes. Also, I have to kindly ask you to read wmf:Resolution:Licensing Policy. I see that you have files like ky:Файл:Курманжан Датка тасмасы.jpeg without a free use rationale and complete description. You do have ky:Уикипедия: ак ниет пайдалануу критерийлери (again, currently it is counted as an article), but I cannot find an equivalent of en:Template:Non-free use rationale, which should be used for such files. Feel free to ask any questions related to adminship, можно также на русском :) --Base (talk) 22:14, 14 October 2020 (UTC)


I'm an administrator of Livvi-Karelian Wikipedia and would like to request this status again. Onegaborg (talk) 22:40, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

  On hold until 2020-10-14. --Sotiale (talk) 06:54, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
  Granted for 2 years to expire on 2022-10-17. 2 years are given by referring to past logs. --Sotiale (talk) 11:40, 14 October 2020 (UTC)


(1) was failed as "not eligible to run for adminship under local policy". He now qualifies, and has passed with 7 days RfA. — regards, Revi 17:22, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

  Granted for 6 months to expire on 2021-04-15. To prolong your (interface) adminship, please start another election a few days before your temporary access expires, and after a week post your request again to this page. Thanks. —Thanks for the fish! talkcontribs 20:59, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
Thank you for your permission. --Trainholic (talk) 21:17, 15 October 2020 (UTC)


I'd like to confirm my status as an admin on nap.wp, discussion is still ongoing. Sannita - not just another sysop 20:30, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

  On hold until October 17. --Base (talk) 20:44, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
  Granted for 2 years to expire on 2022-10-17. To prolong your (interface) adminship, please start another election a few days before your temporary access expires, and after a week post your request again to this page. Thanks. --Wim b 17:02, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
Admin whit very large experience in many WMF's wiki. I grant a permanent adminship. Sorry for the previous… --Wim b 17:20, 17 October 2020 (UTC)


Hello. I ask to give me admin rights on a permanent basis. Above is the link to voting. This is the fourth time when my colleagues have supported my candidacy. In 2020, we adopted a rule on the activity of administrators and the number of admins reduced from five to three — including me. Now, this number is generally equal to two, of which only one is a native speaker.--Mugerganets (talk) 09:02, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

  Done Permanent adminship granted, given experience of the supporters and that you had some temporary terms already. --Martin Urbanec (talk) 20:04, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

Саид Мисарбиев@ce.wikipedia

Hello. Please give me admin rights on an ongoing basis. Above is the link to the vote. This is the fourth time my colleagues have supported my candidacy. We are constantly writing in the Chechen language only 2 authors.--Саид Мисарбиев (talk) 22:17, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

  Done Ruslik (talk) 11:38, 20 October 2020 (UTC)


per local discussion please grant the above-mentioned user administrator access for 6 months Mardetanha talk 09:31, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

  Granted for 6 months to expire on 2021-4-20. Arash.z, please make sure to start a new vote about a week before your adminship expires to prolong it. --Base (talk) 10:21, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

Interface administrator access


I am been holding local sysop permission for almost 9 years and would like to request for (permanent) interface administrator access. Thanks in advance. --HW (talk) 09:18, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Done. --Sotiale (talk) 09:31, 12 October 2020 (UTC)


I'm a longtime pt.wikisource synsop (and a former pt.wikipedia synsop), I'm requesting interface administrative access for 6 months to edit some proofreading and text editor gadgets that are not working anymore, and clean the obsolete configurations in Common.js and Common.css. Giro720 (talk) 21:40, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

  On hold until 2020-10-18. --Sotiale (talk) 09:32, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
  Granted for 6 months to expire on 2021-04-18. To prolong your (interface) adminship, please start another election a few days before your temporary access expires, and after a week post your request again to this page. Thanks. --Wim b 09:59, 18 October 2020 (UTC)


ויקיג'אנקי is the most active user in our little community. He serves as an Interface administrator for almost two years, and his permissions are going to be expired in a few days (along with his sysop permissions), and as always, he suceeded to get our coummunity support for another term. Please extend his permissions by another one year. DL3222 (talk) 10:41, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

DL3222, ויקיג'אנקי, I do not see the vote mentioning interface administrator rights. I hate to ask you, but please start a new vote for this flag. Thank you! --Base (talk) 03:19, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
ויקיג'אנקי, also please note that it is compulsory for interface admins to have 2FA enabled. I have to ask you to do this ASAP. It might be inconvenient, but it is a requirement imposed on the rights by WMF. --Base (talk) 04:39, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

I see that an IA vote is started,   On hold until October 4. --Base (talk) 04:03, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

ויקיג'אנקי, still waiting for you to enable 2FA. --Base (talk) 10:12, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
ויקיג'אנקי does not have two-factor authentication enabled yet --Wim b 21:21, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
Sorry for the delay. I just invested an hour trying to get this to work, but I couldn't get it to work (I think) due to a very complex process that isn't very simple/intuitive to do on a little iPhone. The six number code changes every 30 seconds and that's too fast for to get to punch it in + write my username in Hebrew + write in my password on a little phone... every time this process fails the whole QR code needs to be redone for me to try again (Do I really need to print it out each time to be able to scan it?). What should I do now? ויקיג'אנקי (talk) 22:40, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
ויקיג'אנקי, it is a good idea to print out the QR code and scratch codes, but only as means not to lose them and only if you can ensure that they are stored somewhere where no one can access them. Normally people use a Time-based One-Time Password generator, Google Authentificator is one of them, there are many others made as apps, browser plugins or even online-services (knowledgable in programming people can also write their own generators). The generator stores the QR code and constantly outputs the 6 digit codes used for authentification, so you don't need to scan the QR code all the time. If the generator you have used does not store it, try another (the Google's one definitely does). Also the token is time-based it is important to make sure that your device you have generator on time is synchronised. When logging in, you input your username and password first. Only after those are verified to be correct you are asked for the code. It is at this point that you go to your generator and copy the token from it. Wait until it refreshes to have a bit more time, also while it refreshes every 30 seconds there is a little bit more time to input it, as some slack for time difference is given. Does this instruction make it clearer for you? --Base (talk) 21:52, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
  Not done The user still does not have 2FA enabled, despite having about three weeks to fix that. Feel free to re-fill once this is fixed. --Martin Urbanec (talk) 19:59, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

Bureaucrat access

CheckUser access


According to the current CU election (see de:Wikipedia:CUWA#Auswertung) please give this user the checkuser right at dewiki. Set on hold until he has been identified. Perrak (talk) 17:13, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

Done. @RadiX, Trijnstel, and Matanya: Please create Karsten11's account and add Karsten11 to the mailing list. Thank you for your work! --Sotiale (talk) 09:28, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
  Done. Trijnsteltalk 17:50, 15 October 2020 (UTC)


Please grant CheckUser access. Thanks. Katietalk 03:18, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

Done. @Trijnstel and RadiX: Can you handle the other remaining tasks? Thank you for your time! --Sotiale (talk) 03:24, 16 October 2020 (UTC)


Please grant CheckUser access. Thanks. Katietalk 03:18, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

Done. --Sotiale (talk) 03:24, 16 October 2020 (UTC)


Please grant CheckUser access. Thanks. Katietalk 03:18, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

Done. --Sotiale (talk) 03:24, 16 October 2020 (UTC)


  Done. RadiX 00:44, 21 October 2020 (UTC)


  Done. RadiX 00:44, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

Martin Urbanec@en.wikipedia

  Done. RadiX 00:44, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

Oversight access


Please grant Oversight access. Thanks. Katietalk 03:19, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

Done. @Trijnstel and RadiX: Thanks :D --Sotiale (talk) 03:27, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

Removal of access


User has not made the required 5 admin actions in the last 6 months. Please remove sysop. Rschen7754 02:00, 1 October 2020 (UTC)

  Done Ruslik (talk) 08:33, 1 October 2020 (UTC)


User has not made the required 5 admin actions in the last 6 months. Please remove sysop. Rschen7754 02:00, 1 October 2020 (UTC)

  Done Ruslik (talk) 08:32, 1 October 2020 (UTC)


User has not made the required 5 admin actions in the last 6 months. Adminship is a requirement for OS on Wikidata. Please remove sysop and OS. Rschen7754 02:00, 1 October 2020 (UTC)

  Done Ruslik (talk) 08:35, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
@Ajraddatz and -revi: Did everything get taken care of on the Wikidata side? drop from ML, drop from OTRS? --Rschen7754 18:07, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
OTRS has been done. Don't know about the mailing list. Trijnsteltalk 18:27, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
I don't have mailing list admin password. I think it's only Ajr now that Sjoerd left. — regards, Revi 18:34, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
Done. I also made all the other OS listadmins when they were added so you should all have access. – Ajraddatz (talk) 13:48, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

Inactive administrators@meta - October 2020

See Meta:Administrators/Removal/October 2020. Unfortunately the above-mentioned users meet the automatic removal criteria due to not making the required at least 10 edits between April 1 and October 1, 2020. Please remove their administrator permissions. Thanks, —MarcoAurelio (talk) 11:18, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

Addendum: Vituzzu is to loose checkuser access as well. —MarcoAurelio (talk) 11:35, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

@MarcoAurelio: question for you: Meta:Administrators/Removal specifies the removal of admin rights, but I don't see anything there or at Meta:CheckUsers that says losing adminship results in losing checkuser access. Am I missing something? --DannyS712 (talk) 19:55, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
@DannyS712: The removal policy was approved in 2009 as per Meta talk:Administrators/confirm#Tired of this. Since then in every confirmation round users have been removed from sysop and advanced permissions should they fail to make the required edits, or sign after a week from being notified (including bureaucrat and other advanced permissions). There are precedents such as Mardetanha's CheckUser and Oversighter permissions being removed as per Meta:Administrators/Removal/October 2013, or Barras' CU and OS permissions being removed as well per Meta:Administrators/Removal/October_2017 and Courcelles' OS permissions as well in 2018. Note that since the start of the modern confirmation process in 2009 (cfr. Meta:Administrators/Removal/April 2009) it clearly states that "Adminship (and other rights) removed without notice" and we've been applying the policy this way since its inception. Thanks, —MarcoAurelio (talk) 09:28, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
  Done, sadly :/ RadiX 18:37, 5 October 2020 (UTC)


Please remove CheckUser and Oversight flags. Thanks. Katietalk 14:08, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

  Done, QuiteUnusual (talk) 14:47, 5 October 2020 (UTC)


Per Global renamers#Removal of access, "[Global renamers'] rights will also be removed when they have not taken any action with the rights within a year." - the last time that PlyrStar93 appears to have "taken any action with the rights" appears to have been 18 September 2019, more than a year ago. See the user's log of global renames. Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 20:24, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

  Done @Trijnstel: for further actions --Alaa :)..! 20:42, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

  Done. Trijnsteltalk 12:08, 5 October 2020 (UTC)


User has resigned. Matiia (talk) 00:21, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for their service. --Sotiale (talk) 06:57, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

--స్వరలాసిక (talk) 16:32, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

  On hold for one day, you are free to withdraw your request at any time until it is completed. --Base (talk) 17:51, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
@స్వరలాసిక:   Done Thank you for your service. --Martin Urbanec (talk) 17:01, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

Please remove my CU access at hr.wikipedia. Thank you. -Ex13 (talk) 12:49, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

  On hold for a day per general practice. --Sotiale (talk) 12:53, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
Note: This resignation will trigger removal of all CUs because the number of CUs left will be one, which is prohibited. — regards, Revi 12:54, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
Done. — regards, Revi 11:56, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

Vigorous action@ja.wikibooks

This user not active more than 2 years, so be automatically retire by local policy.--Mario1257 (talk) 12:13, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

Done. --Sotiale (talk) 12:55, 15 October 2020 (UTC)


Request removing checkuser rights of user Vodomar. Support for the user has fallen below 70%. The discussion also includes removal of CU rights for user Ex13, but he requested his rights be revoked before the end of voting. Ivi104 (talk) 11:16, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
Point of clarification: Vodomar is the only CU left for hrwiki, I'm not sure if his rights need to be removed after already being suspended, but I thought I'd still post a request to be sure. --Ivi104 (talk) 11:59, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

  Already done The user rights were already revoked by policy, hence, they lost their CU status already, and there is nothing to do. --Martin Urbanec (talk) 12:02, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
Policy-wise the CU rights were suspended not revoked per se, but this is a revocation of their permissions, therefore hrwiki will need to elect 2 checkuser. — regards, Revi 16:19, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
Can we log that this is now a revocation and not a suspension? Some time later memory can fail. Doing a dummy right change and state that these are being now removed per community discussion won't hurt IMHO. —MarcoAurelio (talk) 18:37, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
The practice used to be that CU/OS who were removed under the 2 CU rule were commented out in the respective lists - but I agree this should be better documented somewhere. For example at CheckUser policy/Users with CheckUser access some of the commented out "suspended" users should be considered revoked since they have now also been inactive for 1 year and would fail those parts of the CU policy. --Rschen7754 19:00, 16 October 2020 (UTC)


I'd like to tender my resignation as a administrator. No need to wait for 24 hours here but if you must, ok. —MarcoAurelio (talk) 18:42, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

Sorry to see this pop up on my watchlist. If and when you feel inclined to serve again I expect you'll be welcomed back with open arms --DannyS712 (talk) 20:36, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

  On hold for 1 day, standard for resignation of advanced permissions --Alaa :)..! 15:33, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

  Done Stryn (talk) 06:29, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

Trần Nguyễn Minh Huy@vi.wikipedia

Please remove my sysop rights and interface-admins rights, due suspicion regards to this user group and also personal request. minhhuy (talk) 08:16, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

  On hold for 1 day, standard for resignation of advanced permissions. @Trần Nguyễn Minh Huy: You can withdraw this request at any time within 24 hours. --Sotiale (talk) 08:34, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
This would be a big lost to the community. I suppose Minh Huy have spent his thoughts over and the decision wasn't made hastily under the recent events. In any case, I request an extended delay until things are clearer. Buiquangtu (talk) 09:51, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
We usually do not grant any extension beyond the standard 24 hour wait. — regards, Revi 10:46, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
  Request withdrawn I made up my mind and decided to hold tools longer for now. Sorry for all the mess here. --minhhuy (talk) 07:41, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
@Trần Nguyễn Minh Huy: No problem. Welcome. --Sotiale (talk) 09:17, 20 October 2020 (UTC)


Please remove the user's sysop flag. The community decided to remove it due to DixonD's prolonged inactivity (see the discussion here; the result is 82.14% in favor of removal, with 51% required by the rules). --Aced (talk) 09:16, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

Done. Thanks for their service. --Sotiale (talk) 09:19, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

User MARCEL@nlwikt

Removal requested for inactivity as specified in our policy. MarcoSwart (talk) 22:49, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

  Done --Martin Urbanec (talk) 23:30, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

Millennium bug@ptwiki

Since user resigned as sysop, his checkuser tool must be removed immediately, per policy: pt:Wikipédia:CheckUser/Candidaturas#Regras ("Somente administradores podem obter o estatuto de verificador de contas"). Érico (talk) 18:54, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

I ask stewards to remove the flag immediately. The user is now blocked for acting like a vandal. His access to this tool puts us at a high risk. Érico (talk) 19:17, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

  Done CU status revoked. Note blocking an user is enough for restricting him/her from any actions requiring elevated permissions, including checking users, or even viewing the CU log. Sincerely, --Martin Urbanec (talk) 19:21, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
@Trijnstel, Risker, and RadiX: Can some of you take care of the listadmin stuff please? Thank you, --Martin Urbanec (talk) 19:29, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
  Done. Trijnsteltalk 09:52, 24 October 2020 (UTC)


This request results seem it's pretty sure to this user's permissions can be revoked. (Discussion are not end so please put it in on hold). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by J. Smile (Love & V.A.V.I) (talk)

What is the reason? Ruslik (talk) 20:21, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
Sounds like Inactivity and lack of initial trust of the initial permission request, in the vote. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 21:16, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

  On hold until October 25. --Base (talk) 22:20, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

My local policy is have more than 10 vote, with at least 50% agree. Zig zag x Pump it pump it up! Babe! 06:19, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

BTW, please don't bring any removal requests which discussion has not yet ended. — regards, Revi 10:56, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
The request had been completed, the community ended the discussion. Please re-check this request, Base, AmandaNP, -revi. Many thanks.ThiênĐế98 (talk) 18:11, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
  Done Ruslik (talk) 20:29, 26 October 2020 (UTC)


Please remove my sysop and interface admin access. I have requested temp-access to local community, and my admin work is done. You don't have to wait. --Marine-Bluetalkcontribs 03:18, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for your service. --Sotiale (talk) 12:24, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

Miscellaneous requests

Temporary permissions (expired and rejected requests only)