Steward requests/Global permissions/2012-07

Requests for global rollback permissions

Global rollback for Riley Huntley

[Not to be closed before July 6th.]
Hello everyone, I am Riley H, as some of you may know. I would mainly like to request the global rollback flag because I am often stuck with a CAPTCHA. I would also benefit from the speed of GR, even though, I do believe in taking my time to ensure mistakes aren't made. Thank you for considering me. Riley Huntley (talk) 21:46, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

  • Just wanted to comment and point out that this user has made a number of valuable contributions across a very wide variety of wikis. I vote yes. Thanks, Athleek123 (talk) 22:40, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
  •   Weak oppose - I took a look at your global contributions and I don't see enough reverts for now, but you're definitely on a good way, so keep it going. - Hoo man (talk) 22:48, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
  • I agree with Athleek123 that Riley Huntley is doing a really good job, but — seeing that he started his cross-wiki work on June 18th — I'm not convinced he has enough experience to be granted the global rollback rights at this moment. Please continue your good work and try again later. Mathonius (talk) 22:53, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
  • no problems with the quality of the nominee, I would just like to see a little more work prior to the bit, and it is good that you are in IRC, that helps. — billinghurst sDrewth 12:19, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
  • Sure. Looking through his global contribs, I find that all of the reverts I checked were done well. I think that he has enough experience to do things right, and a use for the flag. Ajraddatz (Talk) 16:23, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
  • Oppose. Like Hoo man. The user has only lately become active in global vandal fighting - In my opinion it is too early to grant GR already now. --MF-W 16:38, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
  • Riley is a very helpful and methodical support on Wikipedia for people who are new and unaware of the many polices, So I would spport his endeavours.Hjc2012 (talk)hjc2012
  • Oppose I think he hasn't enough reverts too. Maybe later.--Morphypnos (talk) 13:26, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
Morphypnos, could you give a estimated amount of reverts that would be enough or a basic amount? It would help as a reference to me and other users thinking about requesting GR. Riley Huntley (talk) 04:39, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
  •   Weak oppose for now. I'd say that log(reverts)>2 and log(days active)>1.8 must be met before we say it's "enough" (roughly).--Jasper Deng (talk) 05:00, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
    Is that just a needlessly cryptic way to say that you need a hundred reverts and two months of activity before applying? Jafeluv (talk) 11:54, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
    By saying this I increase the implied uncertainty over if I just used the plain numbers.--Jasper Deng (talk) 19:18, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
    By using logs you confuse the person applying, and using a log(x)>2 is the same as saying x should be more than 100, but in a more confusing way. As this is neiter a vote nor a game, it would be best to be as clear as possible. The use of logs is not a part of the cross-wiki work, and the magnitude really has little influence, being there only over 800 wikis. Savhñ 19:26, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
    I should've linked the enwiki article, though I tend to use logarithms when I'm very uncertain of a quantity. In this case he needs anywhere from 80 to 120 reverts in my opinion, as well as 1.5-3 months of experience.--Jasper Deng (talk) 19:29, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
  • Weak oppose for now --Katarighe (Talk) 18:21, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
Closed as not promoted - There is no consensus to grant this permission at this point in time. However, feel free to re-apply later. -Barras talk 21:50, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

Global rollback for Dede2008

The following request is closed. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

I am primary deals with vandalism, spam on Indonesian, English and Malay wiki using Global Twinkle. I am a member of SWMT and I would like to revert any vandals on small wiki after I granted the access. Thank you. --Dede2008 (talk) 05:37, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

  • Not now, you don't have much cross-wiki countervandalism experience. Keep using twinkle and get some experience past language barriers. Ajraddatz (Talk) 05:40, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
  •   Strong oppose per Ajraddatz. Go beyond these 3 wikis - I expect to see at least 5, preferably 10 wikis, or even more. Join the #cvn-sw IRC channel. --Jasper Deng (talk) 05:42, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
    • And even so, you also have to explain your current block on the English Wikipedia, not to mention your previous sockpuppetry.--Jasper Deng (talk) 05:51, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
  • &  currently blocked for spamming on the English Wikipedia. Snowolf How can I help? 05:48, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
  • I am currently blocked on English Wiki, the reason is Spammed again, now I am take the Standard Offer on this wiki, i am previously socking on this wiki, but later I don't make any sockpuppet again. --Dede2008 (talk) 06:46, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
    (e/c)I wasn't aware of the socking (as the block seemed reason enough to oppose), but that hardly gives me more confidence. I suggest that you wait for the block to clear up while you use twinkle or other tools and become more active crosswiki. Snowolf How can I help? 06:49, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
  •   Request withdrawnI am withdrawn now. Thank you for your concern. I want to nominate January 2013, after the Standard offer reviewed. --Dede2008 (talk) 06:54, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
    Closing then. Snowolf How can I help? 06:57, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Global rollback for Vogone

The following request is closed. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

I'd like to request global rollback permissions. I'm a member of SWMT and it would be very helpful because I could revert spam and vandalism faster and I wouldn't need to input CAPTCHA-codes in some wikis. I think, I have much more experiences with cross-wiki than at my last request. Thank you! --Vogone (talk) 11:44, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

  • I would like to see you reapply in some time, as I could only find about 40 undos in you global contributions (not counting self reverts), which is IMO a bit few, so not now - Hoo man (talk) 11:57, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
  •   Oppose No now my friend, you need to have more experience. --Katarighe (Talk) 15:28, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
  •   Oppose. Still not very active and way too soon since your last request imho. Trijnsteltalk 18:49, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
  Request withdrawn Thank you for your opinions. I'll reapply in a few months. Greetings, --Vogone (talk) 19:06, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Requests for global sysop permissions

Requests for global editinterface permissions

Global editinterface for 99of9

I am requesting these permissions because I've recently noticed that the sidebars of most other-language wikipedias are not fully translated into English, and vice-versa. These require creating simple language subpages of sidebar terms, and will not be controversial or dangerous. I do not intend to edit .js or .css files (I do have some experience at that, but it is not required for this issue). My first attempt at this was to request that it be done by a local community, but even those editors able to discuss in English do not necessarily have the administrative tools or knowhow to implement the required changes, and are usually focused on improving content in the language of the wiki itself. I imagine this will be even more difficult in smaller communities. Thus if you are willing to allow it, I would like to create the translations myself. (I only speak English, so will seek native guidance before putting translations into other languages on the en-wiki sidebar). Regarding community trust: I am a bureaucrat on Commons, and long-term editor on en-wiki. I am in good standing and free from controversy on all projects (clean block logs and no known disputes). Thanks, --99of9 (talk) 02:49, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

  Comment I kinda don't understand why it is important/necessary to translate the navigation sidebar into English. The only links that needs translation (that I can think of) is probably Village Pump and Community portal, but usually there will either be a redirect or interwiki link. If there isn't one, creating a redirect is much simpler. Other links should usually be content-related, and does not matter to those who can't speak the language imho. Bencmq (talk) 05:04, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
  Comment Interwiki assumes that the visitor is coming from their home language wiki? I wasn't, I was just browsing around some other language wikis, and wanted to know what I was clicking on. For example, if I was at the nl-wiki main page, and wanted to see their featured content page, I'd find it easier to click "Featured content" than "Etalage". Anyway, the way it is properly done is by translating the Mediawiki sidebar, so even if it's simpler to do something different, I'm offering to do the harder but interface-improving thing. I'm not saying it's super-important, but it would have helped me, and I'd like to do it to help others. --99of9 (talk) 05:41, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
  Comment P.S. I notice that zh-wiki is very well translated (into English at least), and uses the exact method I'm suggesting (e.g. here). --99of9 (talk) 05:51, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
Although the fact that they redirect the main page to "Home page" isn't very helpful as the interwikis on "Home page" take you to the articles of those names instead of the other projects' main pages! QU TalkQu 10:36, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
Oh yes, that's a bit unusual, I didn't notice those interwikis! --99of9 (talk) 10:28, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
  Comment for what it's worth 99of9 is highly trusted by me after working with them for some years on Commons. --Herby talk thyme 09:34, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
  Comment I've noticed the same issue and agree that adding translations would be helpful for crosswiki people that aren't necessarily fluent in the wiki's language. English translations would be a good start, although I wonder whether it would be possible to automatically make use of the large number of multi-language translations that already exist on Translatewiki. Jafeluv (talk) 09:56, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
Can you see an easy way? --99of9 (talk) 00:22, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
Not sure how it goes exactly, but... taking nl:MediaWiki/Vind een artikel as an example, wouldn't it be possible to add a translation to translatewiki:MediaWiki:Vind een artikel/en so that the English text comes automatically from Translatewiki? That way multiple wikis could also use the same translations in case needed. Also, that way anyone registered to Translatewiki could add translations to other languages (as opposed to just a few people with admin/editinterface rights). In any case, someone more familiar with Translatewiki should probably confirm how the system really works. Jafeluv (talk) 09:39, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
New translations can only be added by updating the Messages file via git. Furthermore English interface message names (like "Find an article") should be used, so that they could be easily used on different wikis and are easier to handle. But still I think that's how it should be done, local interface messages aren't the way to go. - Hoo man (talk) 22:55, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
That sounds like a very general solution, but also an enormous barrier to entry. I'd guess that the developers have better things to do with their time than add messages. Assuming I'm not yet up for learning git / mediawiki_source, how long is this likely to sit on the backburner? Maybe my efforts would eventually be replaced, but if that timespan is long, then I still think it would be worth improving the interface immediately. Alternately, if a developer is willing to do it, what do they need from me - a list of English terms that should be translated? Their mediawiki codenames on en-wiki? In what format? --99of9 (talk) 04:32, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for the insight, Hoo. I guess one way how this could procees is this: when a project has a custom sidebar entry (e.g. "Vind een artikel"), you could change the sidebar to point to a local MediaWiki: message which has some appropriate general name (eg. MediaWiki:Findanarticle). Then you could create MediaWiki:Findanarticle with "Vind een artikel", and a translation, e.g. MediaWiki:Findanarticle/en with "Find an article". The created MediaWiki: message names could be listed on a centralized page. Afterwards the whole list of new messages could be posted to Bugzilla and developers could add them to the interface whenever, enabling other users to continue translating the messages on Translatewiki. Would that work? For the record, I also   Support giving 99of9 the rights for this purpose. If my proposal is considered overkill compared to the benefit gained, I have no problem with adding the English versions by using the simpler method described in the nom. Jafeluv (talk) 10:11, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
@99of9: I missed your request of here, but if you tell me what I have to add to those pages I'm happy to help. :) I   Support this request btw. Trijnsteltalk 16:05, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
Never mind. I created the five pages: nl:MediaWiki:Vind een artikel/en, nl:MediaWiki:Today/en, nl:MediaWiki:Etalage/en, nl:MediaWiki:Snelcursus/en, nl:MediaWiki:Kladblok/en. I hope I used the correct translation so a double check of another Dutch admin (Mathonius?) would be appreciated (got his permission, thnx). Trijnsteltalk 16:24, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
Thanks Trijnstel, they look perfect. One down, hundreds to go :). Thanks for your support. --99of9 (talk) 00:22, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
  Comment What about all those users who have set neither the local default nor English as their interface language? Will it be useful to them too? Otherwise it seems to me that one of the other solutions (e.g. including that have been mentioned above might be better than just charging one user with only fixing the things for English. --MF-W 00:44, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
  • Support. Even if it only affects a couple of people, 99of9 is willing to volunteer his time making it happen. I see absolutely no reason to turn him away, since this would obviously useful to those who use it. Ajraddatz (Talk) 16:32, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
  • Oppose. Unless you'll do this for all languages into all languages. Seb az86556 (talk) 16:45, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
      CommentOh? Let us set someone up for a fall 700 wikis * 100+ languages = ???? edits. You'd would like it done by Christmas too? How about being realistic and maybe working on a reasonable goal of setting up the explanatory pages and the framework for all languages so local admins can do it by following some simple instructions. Maybe even investigating if we can have some export/import files, etc. so that others can assist among those who have the rights? — billinghurst sDrewth 11:10, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
  • Support --Katarighe (Talk) 18:20, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
      Done The consensus is that it should be granted for the purpose of creating /en subpages of the sidebar interface messages. Following our customary practice the permission is granted for one year until 9 July 2013 with the possibility of renewal. Ruslik (talk) 13:11, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
  • Thanks all. --99of9 (talk) 04:58, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

Global editinterface for Jack Phoenix


I would like global editinterface user right to ensure that CSS and JS code on WMF wikis meets the MediaWiki coding standards, which ensure that best practises are followed and no subtle bugs can slip in.

For example, even the English Wikipedia's MediaWiki:Common.js page isn't fully in accordance with the coding conventions; deprecated wgGlobals are used instead of mw.config.get( 'wgSomeGlobal' ) and indentation/spacing isn't consistent. This is quite remarkable, given that the English Wikipedia is the biggest Wikipedia there is and it has a large and active administrator community, of which many people know JS (and CSS too). I'm convinced that the situation isn't necessarily as good as the English Wikipedia's on all other WMF-hosted wikis; some of which may have only very few or no active administrators.

I've been a MediaWiki developer since 2008 and I've written and contributed to plenty of extensions. In addition to that, I've been a Countervandalism Network staff member since late 2007 and ShoutWiki staff member since its foundation.

In the light of all of the above, I dare to claim that I'm pretty familiar with CSS, JS and the associated standards and best practises. If you allow, I would like to make use of these skills in order to improve Wikimedia's wikis. --Jack Phoenix (Contact) 18:17, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

  •   Support.--Jasper Deng (talk) 18:34, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
  • Support Has my confidence. Trusted user. -Barras talk 18:36, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
  •   Support Without a doubt. Trijnsteltalk 20:22, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
  •   Support: Sensible user that can be trusted to not break anything (or to be responsive if things do accidentally break!). --MZMcBride (talk) 21:32, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
  •   Support I've known Jack for several years across various different wikis and I can't possibly think of a more experienced and trust-worthy user. Supergeeky1 (talk) 12:04, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
  •   Support. It's an important and non-controversial task and I believe the user can be trusted to not to break anything. Jafeluv (talk) 12:15, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
  •   Support --Katarighe (Talk) 19:39, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
  •   Support -FASTILY (TALK) 21:04, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
  •   Support Greyman(talk) 01:23, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
  •   Support some small wikis really need this kind of help and Jack has the necessary knowledge. micki 05:04, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
  Done, clear cut here. Matanya (talk) 07:47, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
I guess this is temp for a year as past requests? — MA (audiencia) 09:01, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
I guess so too as no one ever got permanent global editinterface rights until now IIRC. Matanya...? Trijnsteltalk 12:22, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
Yes, sorry, forgot to mention that. one year editinterface. Matanya (talk) 21:27, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks to everyone for their support! --Jack Phoenix (Contact) 20:42, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Requests for global IP block exemption

Global IP block exempt for Derschueler

I work out often from my school, and there is the IP address blocked due to frequent vandalism, thanks, —Derschueler 17:19, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Could you please post the exact block message? Because I'm not sure if the block is local or global. If it's global, I'll add a global IP block exempt. Trijnsteltalk 20:26, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
Global. —Derschueler 07:26, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
"Could you please post the exact block message?" - I want to know the IP address et cetera. Thanks. Trijnsteltalk 12:21, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
You can contact Trijnstel or any of us in private, if that's a concern (often). Bencmq (talk) 12:58, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
IP is not now, but very often blocked. — :derschueler: 06:06, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
I couldn't find any relavent block on that IP, and I don't think it was rangeblocked from April onwards either. This IP has however been blocked on dewiki before. So please notify us immediately the next time you are affected by a block, or provide the exact block message to us. Thanks. For now I'll mark this   Not done Bencmq (talk) 10:55, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
Not to say that we have or have not, however, I did a bit of a deeper search and was unable to find information relating to a block. — billinghurst sDrewth 10:58, 14 July 2012 (UTC)