Steward requests/Checkuser/2018-03
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ΕρΚιλλ@el.wikipedia
- List of users
- Κουπεμπέ (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- Vrahomarinaner (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- ΕΝΑΣ ΝΤΕΛΙΚΑΝΗΣ (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- Δαφνοστεφανωμένος (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- Vlad Mirsic (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- Pepapatou (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- ΕρΚιλλ (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- Σίγμα Άλφα Όμικρον Βήτα (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- Θεοφραστος (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
Reason(s): *User ΕρΚιλλ projects the same behaviour pattern and interest in the same fields (alt-right related subjects) as user Vrahomarinarer and his puppets.
Articles that Vrahomariner's puppets have edited: Talk page of ΕΟΚΑ Β(greek cypriot terrorist/guerilla organization) by Vlad Mirsic[1].Turkish Nationalism where puppet Δαφνοστεφανωμένος tries to defame Turks, the national enemy of greeks according to nationalistic narrative. general Nicolaos Plastiras, where puppet ΕΝΑΣ ΝΤΕΛΙΚΑΝΗΣ removes what is considered negative input about the Right wing general and hero. [2].
Articles that User ΕρΚιλλ has edited: Left Fascism, Novartis Bribery allegations, Rallies in Greece for Macedonia (2018)
- User ΕρΚιλλ uses the same aggressive tone against the very same users (either at Summury or at Talk page) against the very same User.
Other Vrahomarinarer puppets: ΕΝΑΣ ΝΤΕΛΙΚΑΝΗΣ [3] and [4] Please note the use of the world μουλωχτά, which is repeated quite often by User ΕρΚιλλ [5], [6],
User:ΕρΚιλλ:[7], [8], [9],[10]
- The internal structure of his argumentation remains the same. Premise: Other user promotes Anti-Greek propaganda, Conclusion: He has to save el.Wikipedia.org .
- User ΕρΚιλλ created his account on 19 January 2018[16], 3 days after his previous confirmed puppet (Vlad Mirsic)[17] was permanently banned from el.WP [18]. From the day Vlad Mirsic was banned, a number of users were deemed as Vrahomarinarer's puppets and therefore banned (User: Πικουλιν, User:Μαύρος Πιτ, User:Φαμαγκούστα, User:VIM7, User: Ρακί ή ουίσκι! User:Δαμοκλής, User:Ένατη Πύλη, User:Ο Λύκος και τα 3 γουρουνάκια) Τζσυντυχάννουμε 21:13, 7 Φεβρουαρίου 2018 (UTC)
Hatake@sq.wikipedia
- List of users
- Hatake (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- Llazgo (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
Fryad ahmad@ckbwiki
- List of users
- Fryad ahmad (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- Penhanhich (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
Not done. The edits of "Fryad ahmad" is so old so there is no data available. -- Tegel (Talk) 18:12, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
Τζερόνυμο@elwiki
- List of users
- Νικόλαος ο Μακιαβέλης (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- Firestarterfighter (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- 78.158.128.21 (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- CU log
- Discussion: el:ΒΠ:Μαριονέτα
- @Gts-tg: Users Νικόλαος ο Μακιαβέλης and Firestarterfighter have different IP's and do not appear to be linked to IP 78.158.128.21. However, the following are confirmed users like need to IP 78.158.128.21:
- Several of these have similar editing behaviour e.g. removing the same phrase(s). The suspicion of the second IP that posted to the userpage of Tofor1948 is correct but they missed a space in the username. I would recommend blocking them locally for abusing multiple accounts. Green Giant (talk) 10:44, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
- Green Giant thanks. Is the link between Νικόλαος ο Μακιαβέλης and Τζερόνυμο confirmed? Gts-tg (talk) 10:51, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
- @Gts-tg: Sorry, no link confirmed between those two accounts (very different IP's). Green Giant (talk) 11:02, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
- Green Giant ok, thanks anyway. Gts-tg (talk) 11:03, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
- @Gts-tg: Sorry, no link confirmed between those two accounts (very different IP's). Green Giant (talk) 11:02, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
- Green Giant thanks. Is the link between Νικόλαος ο Μακιαβέλης and Τζερόνυμο confirmed? Gts-tg (talk) 10:51, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
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--Los Vegas (talk) 15:07, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
Hatake@sq.wikipedia
- List of users
- Hatake (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- Milonjë (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- Milonjë, Almustafà, Llazgo, Fapaf and Flladitja are Confirmed. Ruslik (talk) 19:10, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
TPTB@ro.wikipedia
- List of users
- TPTB (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- Dante4786 (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- Andrei472002 (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- CU log
- Discussion: w:ro:Wikipedia:Reclamații#TPTB
- Inconclusive from a CU point of view. I think there is not enough technical evidence to demonstrate a connection between these accounts, although Dante4786 and Andrei472002 are not unlikely to be associated with each other. RadiX∞ 04:07, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
MonsterHunter32@en.wikiquote
MonsterHunter32 is suspected of using multiple socks for disruptive sockpuppetry and vote stacking in discussions with admins and editors and at VfD. The account is suspected of using socks to change Wikiquote documentation pages [19] with the aim to influence the outcome of ongoing discussions with admins and editors in his favour. The account is also suspected in vote stacking at Votes for Deletion to influence the outcome of deletion discussions.
It would also be helpful to know if the following IP accounts are related to the main account MonsterHunter32, as they are suspected of vote stacking at Votes for Deletion and other places. [20] [21] [22] [23] [24]
(Some further evidence that MonsterHunter32 and Beefybufoon are related: Both accounts are also active on wikipedia, where both accounts have edited the same articles at the same time, violating the sockpuppetry policy [25] [26], and the same subjects (articles about medieval India and Alauddin Khilji (the film Padmaavat is about these subjects), video games, and Eastern-Europe/Russia conflicts). The following IP accounts, among others, appear to be (legitimate) socks of MonsterHunter32 [27] [28] [29] ) Jedi3 (talk) 00:31, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
User:Jedi3 has started making baseless accusations of socks against me now. First he couldn't solve the discussion by discussion. Meanwhile he kept disrupting all through and edit-warring. He then started arm-twisting through complaints which I didn't despite me able being to do so as well but only complaining after him when he started it instead of plain discussion: Wikiquote:Administrators' noticeboard#User:MonsterHunter32's massive censorship of sourced quotes without discussion and Wikiquote:Vandalism in progress#User:MonsterHunter32.
Jedi3 has edit-warred a lot, for some examples see the history of these different articles: [30], [31], [32], [33], [34], [35], [36].
Also while Jedi3 keeps claiming similar articles I edited as a reason, which isn't as users may edit a lot of articles, but that doesn't mean they are related. User:DanielTom has been backing Jedi3 for similar reasons at nearly every complaint he makes. Even their reasons like "censorship" are similar.
I am not Beefybufoon, if you don't believe it check it. In addition I also checked Jedi3's claims about "similarities", I don't edit Eastern-Europe/Russia conflict. Nor I have edited video games often, only rarely. As for the film Padmavat, a lot of users have edited it due to the controversy over it in India. At the film, I only removed an unrelated image and made 2 corrections in the grammar. I made no significant addition. Also Beefybufoon made no edit on Alauddin Khalji as far as I've seen. Jedi3's claims are based on poor understanding.
Not to mention, the VfD discussions he's talking about are months old and I've not used any sock. Not to mention, how is the discussion is in his favor if it was "influenced"? If you need a proof, the IP addresses, I have are usually: 200, 43, 121, 120 and sometimes 59 and 117 and 61.
Also what is funny is User:Jedi3 is claiming [37] is my 'sock'. Even though it is never used a sock and the IP was recorded when I wasn't signed in. when I came to comment again, I realized it and made a new signature so it was clear it was me, see [38]. Jedi3 must take back his claim of it appearing to be a "legitimate sock". Especially, when the very next edit of what he is showing shows that is was a simple case of a user not logged-in. MonsterHunter32 (talk) 04:59, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
- Declined - please sort this conflict out locally. I'd personally recommend that you both just avoid each-other. – Ajraddatz (talk) 05:54, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
Alice Lin@zh.wikipedia
- List of users
- Alice Lin (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- 林穎孟 (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- Ying-Meng Lin (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- Kenny468 (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- CU log
- Discussion: w:zh:Wikipedia:頁面存廢討論/記錄/2018/03/24#林穎孟、w:zh:Wikipedia:頁面存廢討論/記錄/2018/03/30#林穎孟、w:zh:Wikipedia:用戶查核請求/2018/3#Alice_Lin
- Ying-Meng Lin and 林穎孟 are the same user. Alice Lin and Kenny468 are Unrelated. Ruslik (talk) 19:18, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
- @Ruslik0: To confirm, I want to ask if Alice Lin and Ying-Meng Lin are related, or just as Kenny468. ŚÆŊMØŠĀ 00:41, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
Jvdx90365@zhwiki
- List of users
- Jvdx90365 (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- Negmlosi (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- CU log
- Discussion: zh:User_talk:Jvdx90365
- @Shizhao and Jusjih: Care to translate? — regards, Revi 07:30, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
- @Antigng: Unfortunately no Stewards can read/write Chinese. Please write in English. Thanks! — regards, Revi 08:12, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
- Translation: Jvdx90365 was blocked on zhwiki because it is a sock of Negmlosi. Jvdx90365 submitted an unblock request. Please review. Jianhui67 talk★contribs 09:12, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
- @-revi: As what Antigng said in Chinese Wikipedia, we have no responsibility to translate Chinese to English. It is your responsibilty to know what we are saying. ŚÆŊMØŠĀ 10:46, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
- If you say that, I can say ‘it is not our responsibility to process any request we do not understand.’ — regards, Revi 10:50, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
- @-revi: You HAVE the responsibility to recognize what we are saying. We are CHINESE Wikipedia, NOT English Wikiprojects. ŚÆŊMØŠĀ 14:40, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
- Here is Meta-Wiki, not Chinese Wikipedia. Thank you. — regards, Revi 14:41, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
- @-revi: If Chinese Wikipedia users have their CheckUser rights, I would never go here. I go here just because of the Office Actions. ŚÆŊMØŠĀ 14:43, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
- @-revi: Maybe we shall talk at the user talk page? ŚÆŊMØŠĀ 14:45, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
- I don't think we have something more to talk about this, the check result is available below. — regards, Revi 14:46, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
- @-revi: I mean the language problem... ŚÆŊMØŠĀ 14:48, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
- Quoting what Antigng said, "如果他們看不懂導致錯誤判斷,那是他們在濫用權限。" The English meaning is, "If the Stewards made the wrong decisions because they don't know what we are writing, they are abusing their rights." ŚÆŊMØŠĀ 14:54, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
- @Sanmosa: There is no reason to attack helpful stewards here, especially since the decision to remove the Chinese checkusers come from the WMF Office. We simply respond to requests from zhwiki now as there are no local CUs anymore. Nothing more and nothing less. If you have questions/comments about it, I suggest you email ca wikimedia.org. And that we now close this discussion. Thank you for your understanding. Trijnsteltalk 14:55, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
- PS. As there are no Chinese stewards, we recommend to write requests in English if possible. That might only speed up the procedure. Trijnsteltalk 14:55, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
- Here is Meta-Wiki, not Chinese Wikipedia. Thank you. — regards, Revi 14:41, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
- @-revi: You HAVE the responsibility to recognize what we are saying. We are CHINESE Wikipedia, NOT English Wikiprojects. ŚÆŊMØŠĀ 14:40, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
- If you say that, I can say ‘it is not our responsibility to process any request we do not understand.’ — regards, Revi 10:50, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
- @Trijnstel: OK, I will stop about the discussion about the language. I just want everyone to be hopeful that there are still Chinese Wikipedia users know English. ŚÆŊMØŠĀ 14:57, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
- Doing... per Jianhui's translation... (Again, I won't process any request without an explanation I can understand. Other steward may think differently but...) — regards, Revi 14:09, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
From the technical evidences I can access, Unrelated. Remember CheckUser is not magic pixie dust. — regards, Revi 14:34, 31 March 2018 (UTC)