Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Unserdeutsch
Unserdeutsch WikipediaEdit
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- Another request by Scott Gall with complete absence of native speakers, fluent speakers, or even advanced learners. Should be denied, along with all past and future requests from him. --Node ue 16:49, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- It is a language spoken primarily in Papua New Guinea and the northeast of Australia and almost extinct. It was formed among the New Guinean children residing in a German-run orphanage. Only a few native speakers are still alive.
- In what does it differ from German "proper"? Is it a creole language?--Caesarion 19:54, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- de:Unserdeutsch say it is a creole language. (5 Mar 2005)
- In what does it differ from German "proper"? Is it a creole language?--Caesarion 19:54, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- de:Unserdeutsch also says that all speakers have a fluent command of at least two other languages. Apart from the fact of being nearly exinct, it seems that Unserdeutsch was practically never written and presumably nobody's native language. So who is supposed to write that Wikipedia? Arbeo 16:49, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- de:Unserdeutsch had an example of Unserdeutsch somewhere in it, so the language was written down. However, it looked like it was German with words that were never seen in that language. Scott Gall
- Possibly redundant with German? (I know for sure that a Transylvanian dialect wiki would be redundant with Romanian.) NazismIsntCool 01:17, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
- I think so, yes. But creole languages are considered seperate languages, mainly for their grammatical deviances. There is a Haitian Wikipedia as well, for example. But Haitian is spoken by almost all of the population, while this language has assumingly no native speakers and is on the edge of extinction. This request is moribund, I am afraid. Caesarion 13:24, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
- On top of that, if it doesn't have any native speakers (which seems to be the case here) it isn't really a creole but rather a pidgin language. While a number of creole languages certainly qualify for a Wikipedia (having a fairly standardized written form and sometimes even serving as national/majority languages), pidgin languages are generally volatile ad-hoc creations with a limited capacity of expression and therefore not suitable for an encyclopedia. I think it would be cool if people could investigate such basic facts themselves _before_ requesting any languages they've heard of. Arbeo 12:49, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
- Possibly redundant with German? (I know for sure that a Transylvanian dialect wiki would be redundant with Romanian.) NazismIsntCool 01:17, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
- Neutral. I change my decission if appears a native or advanced speaker.--Taichi - (あ!) 22:13, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
- de:Unserdeutsch had an example of Unserdeutsch somewhere in it, so the language was written down. However, it looked like it was German with words that were never seen in that language. Scott Gall