Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Pax̌to

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Pax̌to Wikipedia

submitted	verification	final decision

	This proposal has been rejected. This decision was taken by the language committee in accordance with the Language proposal policy based on the discussion on this page. A committee member provided the following comment: The appropriate solution for a request like this is to approach the community of the Pashto Wikipedia and to see if it has an interest in a transliteration gadget. For LangCom: StevenJ81 (talk) 17:34, 9 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The community needs to develop an active test project; it must remain active until approval (automated statistics, recent changes). It is generally considered active if the analysis lists at least three active, not-grayed-out editors listed in the sections for the previous few months.
The community needs to complete required MediaWiki interface translations in that language (about localization, translatewiki, check completion).
The community needs to discuss and complete the settings table below:

What	Value	Example / Explanation

Proposal
Language code	pst (SIL, Glottolog)	A valid ISO 639-1 or 639-3 language code, like "fr", "de", "nso", ...
Language name	Central Pashto	Language name in English
Language name	Pax̌to	Language name in your language. This will appear in the language list on Special:Preferences, in the interwiki sidebar on other wikis, ...
Language Wikidata item	Q5061628 - item has currently the following values: English label: Central Pashto native label (P1705): instance of (P31)/subclass of (P279): dialect, modern language / Pashto Wikimedia language code (P424): writing system (P282): Arabic alphabet number of speakers, writers, or signers (P1098): 6,520,000	Item about the language at Wikidata. It would normally include the Wikimedia language code, name of the language, etc. Please complete at Wikidata if needed.
Directionality	no indication	Is the language written from left to right (LTR) or from right to left (RTL)?
Links		Links to previous requests, or references to external websites or documents.
Site URL	pst.wikipedia.org	langcode.wikiproject.org

Settings
Project name		"Wikipedia" in your language
Project namespace		usually the same as the project name
Project talk namespace		"Wikipedia talk" (the discussion namespace of the project namespace)
Enable uploads	no	Default is "no". Preferably, files should be uploaded to Commons. If you want, you can enable local file uploading, either by any user ("yes") or by administrators only ("admin"). Notes: (1) This setting can be changed afterwards. The setting can only be "yes" or "admin" at approval if the test creates an Exemption Doctrine Policy (EDP) first. (2) Files on Commons can be used on all Wikis. (3) Uploading fair-use images is not allowed on Commons (more info). (4) Localisation to your language may be insufficient on Commons.
Optional settings
Project logo		This needs to be an SVG image (instructions for logo creation).
Default project timezone	Continent/City	"Continent/City", e.g. "Europe/Brussels" or "America/Mexico City" (see list of valid timezones)
Additional namespaces		For example, a Wikisource would need "Page", "Page talk", "Index", "Index talk", "Author", "Author talk".
Additional settings		Anything else that should be set
Once settings are finalized, a committee member will submit a Phabricator task requesting creation of the wiki. (This will include everything automatically, except the additional namespaces/settings.) After the task is created, it should be linked to in a comment under "final decision" above.

Proposal

It will be useful for non-Perso-Arabic Paxto users to get the content of wikipedia in Romanized Pax̌to and so that they can develop an encyclopedia in such a way that the current Pashto based on Perso-Arabic alphabet. Approximately, there are 40 million of speakers worldwide with two different written forms. One based on Perso-Arabic system the other based on Romanized system recently adopted by the speakers living outside Afghanistan & Pakistan. I strongly feel it deserves its own Wikipedia project.--Khangul 22:03, 29 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

Arguments in favour

Support --Khangul 22:03, 29 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support --Dewa 08:34, 2 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support --Feroz 08:35, 2 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support --GhotaiMangal 08:36, 2 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support --MohammadIshaq 08:37, 2 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support --IdrisAchakzai 08:39, 2 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support --Palwasha 08:40, 2 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support --AbdullahHamdard 08:43, 2 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support --HelaiWasifi 08:44, 2 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support --HanifHairan 08:45, 2 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support --Ulfat 08:46, 2 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support --BENAWA 23:56, 2 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support --WadanAfghanistan 23:58, 2 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support --MateenAfghanmal 00:01, 3 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support --Wahab 00:02, 3 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support --IbrahimKhan 08:00, 4 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support --MohammadOmar 08:01, 4 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support --AbdulShakoor 08:02, 4 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support --Ehsaan 08:03, 4 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support --AbdulHaq 08:04, 4 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support --SedeeqAminzai 08:06, 4 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support --Waheed 08:07, 4 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support --Watanwal 08:09, 4 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support --Shirzaad 08:13, 4 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support --Rehmat Aziz Chitrali 08:13, 11 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support --FarhadWaziri (talk) 02:19, 27 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support--Shahidsafai (talk) 21:16, 28 February 2012 (UTC) Strongly in favor for this project.[reply]

Arguments against

Oppose : -- Pashto is one of the most popular language in Afghanistan and Pakistan. Now in 2017 95% of Afghan Pashtuns can write Arabic script Pashto, I think this new language will be very dangerous for our culture and language. Many people will forget Pashto language, this is just like someone writing Arabi words in English. For example (Alhamdulillah:الحمدلله).Af420 (talk)

Other discussion

Question. Normally, we'd handle things like this using a transliteration script. See Wikipedias in multiple writing systems. Wouldn't we prefer to handle this with a script? StevenJ81 (talk) 18:58, 25 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Let me add: the test project (incubator:Wp/pst) has only 17 mainspace pages, the last of which was created five years ago. StevenJ81 (talk) 19:03, 25 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Localisation update

Currently there is support for Pashto based on Perso-Arabic written system in the MediaWiki messages but as soon we get the pst support for Romanized Paxto in translatewiki.net, soon the process of localization will start.

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