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North Frisian Wikipedia

See also the third request (approved).

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Requests for new languages (Wikipedia North Frisian)

submitted verification final decision This proposal has been closed as part of a reform of the request process. This request has not necessarily been rejected, and new requests are welcome. This decision was taken by the language committee in accordance with the Language proposal policy. The closing committee member provided the following comment: This discussion was created before the implementation of the Language proposal policy, and it is incompatible with the policy. Please open a new proposal in the format this page has been converted to (see the instructions). Do not copy discussion wholesale, although you are free to link to it or summarise it (feel free to copy your own comments over). —{admin} Pathoschild 23:26, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Proposal summary
Language details: North Frisian (Frasch, frr ISO 639-3) Editing community: Caesarion (P), Waerth List your user name if you're interested in editing the wiki. Add "N" next to your name if you are a native speaker of this language. Relevant pages: — External links: —
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• App. number of speakers: 7,000
• Location(s) spoken: the Nordfriesland kreis of en:Schleswig-Holstein, northern Germany, North Sea coast
• Closely related languages, if any: en:West Frisian language, en:East Frisian language, (see above)
• External links to organizations that promote the language: Nordfriisk Instituut
• Link to request on a mailing list: http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikipedia-l/2005-May/039448.html

• Comments:
  • One of the three Frisian languages, very unlike both Westlauwer and Saterland Frisian.
  • After my request for a Saterlandic Wikipedia, which is currently being developed, I would like to request a wikipedia in the last remaining Frisian language without one. This request is supported by the existing and flourishing Westlauwer Frisian Wikipedia. Caesarion 11:31, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Proposed code: gem-nfr
  • Wikipedia point of view:
    • Some people say fy is for Frisian language. (11 May 2005)
    • Some people say fy is for West Frisian language. (11 May 2005)
    • Some people say fy is for English language. (11 May 2005)
      • What the fuck!? Who the hell says that? --Node ue 16:49, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • fy does not refer to any specific variety of Frisian, it applies to North Frisian languages as well as Westerlauwerspsdlfls Frisian. Node ue 10 May 2005
  • fy is sometimes said to refer to all Frisian languages, but the letter y (form "Frysk") suggests it is intended for Westlauwer Frisian only. Caesarion 28 May 2005
    • It doesn't matter how "fy" was formed. Bottom line: FY is for Frisian. Not just Westlauwer Frisian. Any list of ISO codes will tell you this, in both English and French. --Node ue 16:49, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • You know jolly well that it is ridiculous to consider it one language. By the way, I did not leave the information on the iso codes above. And PLEASE don't use obscene words on any Wikimedia project! Caesarion 15:21, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • I'm not disputing whether or not they are one language. That is obvious, they are multiple languages. But they share a single ISO code nonetheless. FY is not assigned specifically to Westlauwers Frisian, but rather to "Frisian". And definitely NOT to English...! --Node ue 20:55, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
      • Of course not. It must have been a mistake. But please no f-words here on this page! Caesarion 08:54, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
        • In nl.wikipedia anything to do with Frisia is considered an f*** word ;) Waerth 09:06, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Generally speaking, I think we should have a North Frisian Wikipedia. But before any further steps can be taken we need some native speakers that are willing to contribute. Especially with a "small language" like this one, that's a conditio sine qua non. Arbeo 10:06, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
    • Oh yes, I have been trying to and I will look more intensively as soon as I can be sure the Seelter Wikipedia will be created. Caesarion 17:48, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
  • Support. The Frisian languages are very important. --Hottentot
  • I added the ISO code, which was approved last month. --Chamdarae 19:17, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
• Support I would like to support the North Frisian wikipedia. The Sorbs (I work on the sorbian wikipedia) have good contact to the Northern Frisians. Ik ban een Frasche :-)--nepl 13:44, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
• Frisian languages are especially important since they are similar to the original English language