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See also Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Hindustani 2 (closed).
See also Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Hindustani 3 (open).
main page Requests for new languages (Wikipedia Hindustani)
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  • Language details: Hindustani (—ISO —)
  • Editing community: Scott Gall (P)
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    • Scott, please stop requesting so many languages with 1) no native speaker support 2) you don't speak a word of them yourself 3) just because you've heard they exist. It's flooding this page, and is not constructive.
      • Wiki-King did speak once more ... Wiki-Tyran knows always the right best way. Scott, I did already propose Hindustani last year and an usual Wiki-Tyran did erase the request... I can rapport to you that a few hundred authentic Hindustani books (Romanised Indish Language book corresponding to the old Standard used in the 19. Century in the English Communauty were saled on ebay each year. Before 1900, the Royal Dictionary English <-> Hindustani, T. Craven, was saled 1/4 million exemplar! Hindustani is somewhat like popular sanskrit. It really the sum of Urdu and Hindi and minor dialects. The popular author Saihgal, Simla Hills, Punjad, did publish is Hindustani Grammar in different forms corresponding to the covered dialects. I have the Roman-Urdu Ed. at home. But other exist also. For the most people in Occident is Hindustany the only one really accessible approach to the Indian culture! But to-day supposed linguist are really ignorant... India is only 1/5 of the population of the World!!! 85.212.42.214 20:20, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Notes/comments:
    • hi (en:Hindi) and ur (en:Urdu) where created for many month. (5 Mar 2005)
      • I am convinced that Hindustani is a separate language, as it is an official language of Fiji. I know it is. Scott Gall 10:05, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC) PS: Why not have hs.wikipedia.org as the subdomain?
        • Just because it's official doesn't make it a separate language.
        • Hindustani is an umbrella term for two languages/ variants that are referred to by their speakers either as Hindi or as Urdu. Your proposal does make sense, however, if the Fiji Hindustani is written in Latin script, for example. I think many of us would like to know more about that. Caesarion 11:18, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
          • If I recall correctly, the script used is divided based on religion. Hindus use Devanagari, and Muslims use Nastaleeq (Arabic script). However, the dialect of Hindustani (which is a single spoken language everywhere, but in the written forms, Hindi artificially replaces all Arabic- and Persian-origin words with Sanskrit words) used in Fiji, those of other communities outside of India/Pakistan (such as in Surinam, Guyana, other Pacific and Indian Ocean nations and also French Guyana I believe), and those of India are all quite different from each other. But still, if memory serves, Fijian Hindustani speakers should be able to understand perfectly. --Node ue 17:14, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
        • Yes, this is going to be ridiculous. There is no such language as "hindustani". This is Urdu and Hindi, which are also the same language, but are written with different scripts depending on which side of the border you are.Yann 08:17, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
          • Then transliterate into Latin alphabet the Hindi and Urdu translations of the phrase "It's better to die in elevated glory than to be slaves on your own land," (stolen from the English translation of the last two lines of the Romanian national anthem) and I'll prove you wrong. Scott Gall 03:57, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC) PS: I think Hindustani in Latin script will make sense.