Requests for new languages/Wikipedia French Canadian

main page Request for a new language edition: Wikipedia French Canadian
submitted verification final decision
Discuss the creation of this language project on this page. Votes will be ignored when judging the proposal. Please provide arguments or reasons and be prepared to defend them (see the Language proposal policy).

The language committee needs to verify the language is eligible to be approved.

  • Check that the project does not already exist (see list).
  • Obtain an ISO 639 code
  • Ensure the requested language is sufficiently unique that it could not exist on a more general wiki.
  • Ensure that there are a sufficient number of native editors of that language to merit an edition in that language.
  • The community needs to develop an active test project; it must remain active until approval (automated statistics, recent changes). It is generally considered active if the analysis lists at least three active, not-grayed-out editors listed in the sections for the previous few months.
  • The community needs to complete required MediaWiki interface translations in that language (about localization, translatewiki, check completion).
  • The community needs to discuss and complete the settings table below:
What Value Example / Explanation
Proposal
Language code fr-ca (SILEthnologue) A valid ISO 639-1 or 639-3 language code, like "fr", "de", "nso", ...
Language name French Canadian Language name in English
Language name français canadien Language name in your language. This will appear in the language list on Special:Preferences, in the interwiki sidebar on other wikis, ...
Language Wikidata item Q1450506 - item has currently the following values:
  • en label = Canadian French
  • native label (P1705) = français canadien
  • instance/subclass (P31/P279) = dialect / American French
  • Wikimedia language code (P424) = fr-ca
  • writing system (P282) = Latin script
  • number of speakers (P1098) =


Item about the language at Wikidata. It would normally include the Wikimedia language code, name of the language, etc. Please complete at Wikidata if needed.
Community
You can optionally list your user name if you are an active contributor to the test wiki. Add "N" next to your name if you are a native speaker of this language.
Links Links to previous requests, or references to external websites or documents.
Settings
Project name Wikipédia français canadien "Wikipedia" in your language
Project namespace usually the same as the project name
Project talk namespace "Wikipedia talk" (the discussion namespace of the project namespace)
Enable uploads no Default is "no". Preferably, files should be uploaded to Commons.
If you want, you can enable local file uploading, either by any user ("yes") or by administrators only ("admin").
Notes: (1) This setting can be changed afterwards. The setting can only be "yes" or "admin" at approval if the test creates an Exemption Doctrine Policy (EDP) first. (2) Files on Commons can be used on all Wikis. (3) Uploading fair-use images is not allowed on Commons (more info). (4) Localisation to your language may be insufficient on Commons.
Optional settings
Project logo File:... 135x135 PNG derivative from a decent SVG image (instructions)
Default project timezone North América/Montréal "Continent/City", e.g. "Europe/Brussels" or "America/Mexico City" (see list of valid timezones)
Additional namespaces For example for a Wikisource which would need "Page", "Page talk", "Index", "Index talk"
Additional settings Anything else that should be set
submit phabricator task (includes everything automatically, except additional namespaces/settings)


ProposalEdit

The French Canadian community is close to 10 million people. We do understand French speakers from France, but as American English evolve in a different way of English from Britain, the French Canadians speak quite a different French. As well, our references and our culture is dramatically different and a Wikipedia in French Canadians will allow us to express our difference.

Thanks,

Sign your request by ending your statement with: --Fic5801 (talk) 20:27, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

DiscussionEdit

  • But as American English has evolved in a different way than British English, but shared the same Wikis, so shall Canadian French share the same Wikis as French French.--Prosfilaes (talk) 07:19, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
  • For the umptiest time: no. Just no. No separate Wikipedias for British, Irish, American, Canadian, Indian, Australian, South African, ... English. No separate Wikipedias for European, Mexican, and South American Spanish. No separate Wikipedias for European and Brazilian Portuguese. No separate Wikipedias for Dutch and Flemish. No separate Wikipedias for German from Germany, Switzerland and Austria. No separate Wikipedias for Romanian and Moldovan. No separate Wikipedias for Swiss and Italian German. No separate Wikipedias for whatever slightly different national standard of the same language. So again: no separate Wikipedias for metropolitan, Belgian, Swiss and Canadian French. How difficult can it be? Steinbach (formerly Caesarion) 16:41, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose. Canadian French is a dialect of the French language. --Agusbou2015 (talk) 17:47, 21 May 2020 (UTC)