Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Berlinisch
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SupportEdit
Support We should be as accepting of Berliners as of Barvarians, Chinese, etc.Cameron Nedland 20:18, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
- Support. We have a lot of active wikipedias in Germanic dialects. Kneiphof 13:00, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
Support I think, it's a good idea. I'd love to learn more about Berlinisch. --Capsicum 22:25 CET, 16 October 2006
- Support its obviously a spoken variety and its spoken unlike its written in High German, so it should be written in berliner so berliner syntax and language propering.71.142.79.248 08:44, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
- Support, en: …cuz I'm from Berlin and think it's a unique language even if there isn't much written text yet. / de: Ich bin dafür, da ich aus Berlin komme und denke, dass es eine einmalige Sprachmischung ist, auch wenn es nur wenige Schriftquellen dafür gibt. Berliner76, 8 October 2006
- en: Just one opinion from a real "Berliner"!? bln: Wat'n los hier, ey? Keene weitere Meinung von'e echte Berliner Jöre hier - kann doch nich sein!? Berliner76, 00:40, 10 October 2006
- Support Why on Earth do we have a Veneto Wikipedia, and we couldn't have a Berlinisch one? Booksworm 17:21, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
OpposeEdit
Oh I oppose this wikipedia, there is too many wikipedia's of deutsch.! -- KozakiUkr 14:14, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
Oppose, Berlinisch is a spoken language only. Berliners use standard German in writing, so de-Wikipedia is sufficient. Angr 16:23, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
Oppose, per above.. dialects are not languages, a dialect of a city is not the same thing as a language.. What next WikiTexan, WikiNew England, WikiCockney, WikiCalifornian???? Baristarim 00:28, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
Oppose same as Baristarim --MinionComma 20:36, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
Oppose, although living in Berlin since 1972: Berlinisch is a dialect only, and it is not even spoken widely in Berlin which is a very open city; Berlinisch is present spoken in old districts with a population that never migrate and sometimes doesn't know the neighborough parts of the town. By the way, I guess that in the former East part of the city the speak some different dialect, so we should then make West Berlinisch and East Berlinisch to be political correct... -jkb- 22:39, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
- That's wrong, most Berliner can still speak the language - and it's one of its own, even if mostly classified as a dialect. But it's true that the language is dying because it won't be promoted. --Berliner76
Oppose i was born in Berlin, i lived all my life in Berlin and i contribute mostly to Berlin related topics in De.Wikipedia, but i never write in Berlinisch and i don't think that a bln.Wikipedia will get enough contributors. 6 Million contributors is also a very optimistic number, because especially in Berlin there are many many people from other regions of Germany. i will surely never visit bln.wp. --BLueFiSH ✉ 15:42, 23 October 2006 (UTC) Oppose - Squatting of an official ISO-639 code .. Mbugu .. GerardM 10:10, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
- Oppose --Jordi G 16:09, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
- Oppose as per above (und ick weeß sehr jenau, warum!) SARAzyn diSK 22:59, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
- Oppose this goes too far; I generally support wikipedias in the "dialects" of Germany or also France. But the dialect of Berlin is not what we see as a traditional dialect but a variation with very small differences to standard German. In fact, it is the result of a blending of the old Low German language of the area and Standard German. On top of that, it's not even widely spoken anymore for all I know. --Clemens 02:37, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
- Oppose As with Koelsch below, Berlinisch is a dialect, not a language of its own. Creating a separate Wikipedia to attract Berliner will serve only to detract from the well-roundedness of dewiki. AmiDaniel 05:43, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
- strong oppose. gawd. --Janneman 18:06, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
NeutralEdit
Neutral or actually weak oppose. While I have supported most of the proposal for Wikipedias in German regional languages, I think this is one step too far. It's the dialect of one city only and not even considered a language by Ethnologue. These are not fruitful cicumstances for a Wikipedia. On the other hand, I must admit the Berlin dialect is pretty unique in its combination of Low, High and Middle German characteristics, somewhat similar to Town Frisian. I opt for a Wikicity. Steinbach (formerly Caesarion) 12:06, 8 October 2006 (UTC)