Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Babyish

Babyish Wikipedia

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	This proposal has been closed as part of a reform of the request process. This request has not necessarily been rejected, and new requests are welcome. This decision was taken by the language committee in accordance with the Language proposal policy. The closing committee member provided the following comment: This discussion was created before the implementation of the Language proposal policy, and it is incompatible with the policy. Please open a new proposal in the format this page has been converted to (see the instructions). Do not copy discussion wholesale, although you are free to link to it or summarise it (feel free to copy your own comments over). —{admin} Pathoschild 22:02:20, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Proposal summary
Language details: Babyish (babyish or bb [invented]) Editing community: Tomchiukc (P) List your user name if you're interested in editing the wiki. Add "N" next to your name if you are a native speaker of this language. Relevant pages: — External links: —
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Comments:
- Babyish was originally a language spoken by a certain groups of kids in en:Hong Kong. They uses Cantonese as their mother tongue, and they were taught with extensive amount of English in school as well. On the other hand, some of the kids have their grandparents speaking with another kind of language at home, and some elements were brought into their common language. When they were growing up, some of them learnt French and Japanese and they brought some elements into their common langauge. Such common language does not have a name before, and was named as "Babyish" later, for the comments by one of their parents about "Why are you talking in a tone like a baby?"
  
  Now, these native speakers of Babyish has spread around the world. Some of them lives in Toronto, some of them lives in en:Boston, some of them lives in en:Chicago, while most of them lives in Hong Kong, but scattered. I wish to use the portal to link these people up, and share their knowledge about the langauge. We used to have literatures and publications (handwritten or typed) in the past. I think this is quite an interesting way to see how a langauge is being developed.
  
  The maximum number of language population was around 100. There are much less people who can speak this language, as they have forgotten the language when they grown up and speak the "proper language" required by the society. Tomchiukc
  - Tom, I was under the impression that Babyish was a conlang used in some books, not a naturally-formed language spoken by real people. --Node ue 16:49, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    - Actually, Tom has it written on his own homepage that Babyish is an artificial language created solely for the book "Stories in Babycasèny". This means that he is either lying here, or on his page. --Node ue 16:49, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- I've replaced this request on the page after it was removed since I don't think it's trolling. Tomchiukc requested a Wikicity for this, but I suggested it be discussed here first, since Wikicities can not accept projects which duplicate existing Wikimedia projects, and new language versions of Wikipedia need to be explicitly rejected by the community here (for example, Toki Pona) before we will consider hosting them. Angela 11:22, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
  - Oops, that was my fault! Well, sorry then...:-/ Caesarion 11:15, 29 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Request possibly not serious. Scott Gall 12:52, 28 May 2005 (UTC) PS: Here's one that IS serious...[reply]
  - Well... It may not seem to be serious... But we did develop our own alphabets, story books and newspapers. We first cut out old newspapers and reorganize them into a new one. Then we learnt typesetting with typewriters and computers, and thus we can make more publications, bank notes, coins and stamps when we are role-playing. ;-) --Tomchiukc 08:48, 31 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Zero supporters. Let's just ignore it. Arbeo 13:42, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  - Come on, don't be harsh... We must discuss whether it has to become a Wikicity or a Wikipedia. Most people, including the proposer him/herself, seem to think the former, but, as Angela pointed out, the idea must pass this page to exclude the possibility that it can yet be a Wikipedia. Remarks like "let's ignore it" or my own "looks like trolling" may daunt the proposer, just coming in newly with a nice idea. Caesarion 14:53, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  - Was that too strict? Maybe you're right. It's just that in the recent time there have been quite a number of requests for WPs that could hardly have been taken seriously (just think about that snake language - I forgot it's name - some time ago) and they always result in endless futile discussions. I certainly don't mean to daunt anyone, that's the last thing we need here. My point is basically just that people take some time and think about issues like "Is the language I have mind really suitable for building an entire encyclopedia?", "Is there really a need/demand for encyclopedic information in that language?" or "How successful are existing WPs in comparable languages?" before posting their requests. Arbeo 15:46, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Tomchiukc, is there anyone other than yourself willing to work on this? Is there any existing text in this "language"? Are you intending to make up the language as you write this? If so, it may be better to start it at Wikicities:c:Conlang rather than trying to create an entire new wiki for this proposal. If it takes off, it can be moved elsewhere at a later date, but I don't see any support for it so far. Angela 20:55, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Thanks all. I think I will try to start it first, and them ask my friends to contribute as well. ^__^ -- Tomchiukc 20:46, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Oppose. Not enough speakers, and what speakers there are seem to be reducing in numbers. Keeno 14:06, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]