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Hebrew MediaWiki.org

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  • Language details: Hebrew (', he ISO 639-2)
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I suggest a Hebrew MediaWiki site (there are already Hebrew Wikipedia, Wiktionary, Wikiquote, Wikisource, Wikibooks and Wikinews), because it's hard to write an RTL language in an LTR, and with English interface (even if I change the language to Hebrew, the interface remains LTR), MediaWiki site. It's better to seperate the languages, and the Hebrew project will be able to use a Hebrew, and RTL, interface and text.

Thanks. – rotemliss – Talk 16:44, 14 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Arguments in favour

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  1. Support – rotemliss – Talk 09:36, 15 April 2006 (UTC) (N)[reply]
  2. Support a good idea! Idand 09:31, 15 April 2006 (UTC) (N)[reply]
  3. Support: None 04:10, 15 April 2006 (UTC) (N)[reply]
  4. Support --Taichi - (あ！) 05:09, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  5. Support Kenwilliams 08:31, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  6. Support Troll Refaim 14:14, 15 April 2006 (UTC) (N)[reply]
  7. Support Whaa? 14:33, 15 April 2006 (UTC) (N)[reply]
  8. Support Belgian man (nl na en) 16:03, 19 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  9. Support Platonides 16:37, 10 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  10. Support Gangleri · Th · T 05:45, 30 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  11. Support - Ek7 13:54, 8 July 2006 (UTC) (N)[reply]
  12. Support Kordas 09:48, 22 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  13. Support Idanrm1 06:50, 23 July 2006 (UTC) (N)[reply]
  14. Support --Oldak Quill 18:22, 23 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Arguments against

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  1. --Absar 11:21, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    Hello, could you please explain the opposition? What do you suggest instead? – rotemliss – Talk 11:51, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  2. oppose that way, because there should only be a seperate RTL wiki, which handles other rtl languages too (arabic ...). TZM talk at de.wp 18:29, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    Which language should be the content language in such wiki? English is almost international, and therefore it's native to be the content language in a main site; however, there is no RTL language which is spoken by all the RTL languages speakers, and is native to set as a content language. I didn't even start to talk about the political issues (every chosen language will annoy many users). It's not good at all. I support a MediaWiki site for each language, and therefore I also support http://ar.mediawiki.org ; however, I don't see how an RTL wiki is going to be used. (Not to talk about URLs, bureaucrats (we will probably need almost two) and sysops (how many for each language?), main page, village pump, policy, etc.) – rotemliss – Talk 18:14, 8 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

General discussion

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Alternative

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The reason why you ask for a Wikimedia in Hebrew is technical. In the proposal for Multilingual MediaWiki we will get an environment where a page can be completely in Hebrew or English, Hindi or whatever language. One of the things Multilingual MediaWiki will do is to allow for multiple languages in projects like Meta and Commons.

Programming has started. Two developers are working on it. I propose to wait for this new functionality. Thanks, GerardM 20:39, 19 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know what is the project, and what will be exist when finished; but let's say it will allow to specify the page language via "uselang" or the preferences, to completely differ the languages and allow everyone to use his language. Let's also say it will allow interwiki within the wiki, using "uselang". Why should someone prefer such a Multilingual wiki and not different wiki sites, can be more easily maintained? In Commons, it should be the same wiki for all the langauges for there should be only one source of shared images; but in MediaWiki site it is not the problem, so there is no need to compress everything in one site. – rotemliss – Talk 07:18, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
By the way, I think the Meta should be also Multilingual, like Commons (and it is, but not using the proposed features, and Commons also doesn't, because these features are not exist) – one site where we decide things in diffferent languages (although most of the discussions should be in English, for everyone will be able to understand them – for example, this discussion); but MediaWiki site is not the Meta, and it is mainly a content site, which should be translated. – rotemliss – Talk 07:30, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Eventually we begin the project?? Idanrm1 07:05, 23 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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