Requests for new languages/Wiktionary Central Kurdish
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This proposal has been approved. The Board of Trustees and language committee have deemed that there is sufficient grounds and community to create the new language project. A committee member provided the following comment: The project has been approved by the language commitee and is awaiting creation: phab:T331831. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 02:02, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
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- The community needs to develop an active test project; it must remain active until approval (automated statistics, recent changes). It is generally considered active if the analysis lists at least three active, not-grayed-out editors listed in the sections for the previous few months.
- The community needs to complete required MediaWiki interface translations in that language (about localization, translatewiki, check completion).
- The community needs to discuss and complete the settings table below:
| What | Value | Example / Explanation |
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| Language code | ckb (SIL, Glottolog) | A valid ISO 639-1 or 639-3 language code, like "fr", "de", "nso", ... |
| Language name | Central Kurdish | Language name in English |
| Language name | کوردی | Language name in your language. This will appear in the language list on Special:Preferences, in the interwiki sidebar on other wikis, ... |
| Language Wikidata item | Q36811 - item has currently the following values:
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Item about the language at Wikidata. It would normally include the Wikimedia language code, name of the language, etc. Please complete at Wikidata if needed. |
| Directionality | RTL | Is the language written from left to right (LTR) or from right to left (RTL)? |
| Site URL | ckb.wiktionary.org | langcode.wikiproject.org |
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| Project name | ویکیفەرھەنگ | "Wiktionary" in your language |
| Project namespace | ویکیفەرھەنگ | usually the same as the project name |
| Project talk namespace | وتووێژی_ویکیفەرھەنگ | "Wiktionary talk" (the discussion namespace of the project namespace) |
| Enable uploads | no | Default is "no". Preferably, files should be uploaded to Commons. If you want, you can enable local file uploading, either by any user ("yes") or by administrators only ("admin").
Notes: (1) This setting can be changed afterwards. The setting can only be "yes" or "admin" at approval if the test creates an Exemption Doctrine Policy (EDP) first. (2) Files on Commons can be used on all Wikis. (3) Uploading fair-use images is not allowed on Commons (more info). (4) Localisation to your language may be insufficient on Commons. |
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| Project logo | File:Wiktionary-logo-ckb-bold.svg | This needs to be an SVG image (instructions for logo creation). |
| Default project timezone | IQ (+03:00) | "Continent/City", e.g. "Europe/Brussels" or "America/Mexico City" (see list of valid timezones) |
| Additional namespaces | here | For example, a Wikisource would need "Page", "Page talk", "Index", "Index talk", "Author", "Author talk". |
| Additional settings | Anything else that should be set | |
| Once settings are finalized, a committee member will submit a Phabricator task requesting creation of the wiki. (This will include everything automatically, except the additional namespaces/settings.) After the task is created, it should be linked to in a comment under "final decision" above. | ||
Bulleted list item Sorani and Kurmanci are the two major dialects of the Kurdish language. They are different in both grammar and vocabulary. People of these dialects may understand each other but they are not able to speak and write in the other. Unlike Kurmanci speakers who use the Latin script, speakers of the Sorani dialect prefer to use the Arabic script.
Language facts:
edit- Number of speakers: more than 8 million.
- Locations spoken: Iraq and Iran.
- Related languages: Iranian Languages.
Discussion
edit- Support Support --Diyar se (talk) 20:52, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
- Support --Muhammed taha (talk) 16:40, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
- Support I support this project. --Kurdbuddha 16:38, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
- Oppose --Calak (talk) 10:49, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
- Support 217.218.42.228 14:35, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
- Oppose Bodhdharma (talk) 06:45, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
- Support --Serchia (talk) 15:40, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
- Strong Support –Lost Whispers (talk) 21:05, 16 May 2017 (UTC)
- Support –Aram (talk) 22:05, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
- Support Kushared (talk) 06:06, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
- SupportKurd2021 (talk) 08:19, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
- Support--Keenîî (talk) 08:57, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
- Support 🌸 Sakura emad 💖 (talk) 13:03, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
- Support — Roj 14:58, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
- @StevenJ81: we have still not received a word about whether this project is eligible or not so far. What are we doing wrong?--◂ épine talk♬ 15:31, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
- @Épine: Here's the honest answer: I'm working through the backlog of old requests by the date of the request. I'm still finishing up 2011 requests. This request only goes back to 2012, so I haven't gotten to it yet. But it's not going to be a problem, and you're not doing anything wrong. StevenJ81 (talk) 19:57, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
- @Épine: That said ... if you ever want these projects to go anywhere, and to be approved (as opposed to merely eligible), you should be working on creating content in them. StevenJ81 (talk) 16:36, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
- @Épine: Here's the honest answer: I'm working through the backlog of old requests by the date of the request. I'm still finishing up 2011 requests. This request only goes back to 2012, so I haven't gotten to it yet. But it's not going to be a problem, and you're not doing anything wrong. StevenJ81 (talk) 19:57, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
- @StevenJ81: how many pages exactly? I thought of doing that after it was marked as eligible.--Épine (talk) 21:04, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
- @Épine: You don't need to wait until the project is marked eligible before creating content; in fact, it's better if you start working on the project before it is marked as eligible. (If the concern is that the project would somehow not be eligible, don't worry in this case; that isn't going to happen. And, in fact, next time I do some updates, I'm going to go ahead and mark this eligible, so you can stop worrying.) How many pages? Start creating content, and look to Wiktionary for an idea as to how many pages open projects have. (Note: many of the tiny projects listed are actually closed, so don't go by those.) StevenJ81 (talk) 23:24, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
- well noted, thank you.--Épine (talk) 00:10, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
- @StevenJ81: hi! We created content (and keep on doing so) and held the project active for the past four days. Do you think it's time to create our site so we can keep on working there? Dealing with templates and discussions on Incubator is extremely frustrating. Our Wiktionary is growing really quickly, so I believe it's safe to let us have our own site now.--Épine (talk) 00:52, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
- also, I want to point out that all the important translations for the project have been made already.--Épine (talk) 00:54, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
- @StevenJ81: hi! We created content (and keep on doing so) and held the project active for the past four days. Do you think it's time to create our site so we can keep on working there? Dealing with templates and discussions on Incubator is extremely frustrating. Our Wiktionary is growing really quickly, so I believe it's safe to let us have our own site now.--Épine (talk) 00:52, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
- well noted, thank you.--Épine (talk) 00:10, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
- @Épine: You don't need to wait until the project is marked eligible before creating content; in fact, it's better if you start working on the project before it is marked as eligible. (If the concern is that the project would somehow not be eligible, don't worry in this case; that isn't going to happen. And, in fact, next time I do some updates, I'm going to go ahead and mark this eligible, so you can stop worrying.) How many pages? Start creating content, and look to Wiktionary for an idea as to how many pages open projects have. (Note: many of the tiny projects listed are actually closed, so don't go by those.) StevenJ81 (talk) 23:24, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
- @StevenJ81: how many pages exactly? I thought of doing that after it was marked as eligible.--Épine (talk) 21:04, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
- Hello @Amire80:, Sorry for mentioning you here. I found you as a Language committee member, so I mentioned you. We, as several users of the Central Kurdish community, recently created a project (see the project page) to create Central Kurdish Wiktionary. Today is the tenth day we are working on it. Please see this query to know the number of pages in the main namespace; we update it daily. We are still active and working on it daily. Note that the ckbwiktionary has already been worked on 2018. We wanted to know if it was now time for the project to have its own domain. Please let us know if the project has any further work to do (especially, technical scope) or something is wrong. Thank you in advance! Aram (talk) 22:08, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
- @MF-Warburg: @Satdeep Gill: @Jon Harald Søby: @GerardM: Sorry for mentioning you here. Can one of you work on getting this project accepted? I have given more explanation in my statement above. Thank you! Aram (talk) 07:54, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
- Hi Aram! The main thing we look at when it comes to approving projects is that there is sustained activity from several users over several months, using this tool to check. The current activity level looks very good, so if the activity stays at the same current level for 3–4 months, we will look into approving it at that time. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 08:18, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Jon Harald Søby: Thank you for your reply! We will do our best to build this project. Thanks! Aram (talk) 08:32, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Jon Harald Søby: Sorry for mentioning you. I just wanted to say that we have reached 5,000 pages in the main namespace today. We have been working on the project for nine months, but no one has commented on this page and there is no task on phabricator.wikimedia.org yet. It is unclear whether it will be built or not. Please, as a member of the Language committee, can you give us some good news? Thanks! Aram (talk) 20:29, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
- @Jon Harald Søby: Thank you for your reply! We will do our best to build this project. Thanks! Aram (talk) 08:32, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
- Hi Aram! The main thing we look at when it comes to approving projects is that there is sustained activity from several users over several months, using this tool to check. The current activity level looks very good, so if the activity stays at the same current level for 3–4 months, we will look into approving it at that time. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 08:18, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
- @MF-Warburg: @Satdeep Gill: @Jon Harald Søby: @GerardM: Sorry for mentioning you here. Can one of you work on getting this project accepted? I have given more explanation in my statement above. Thank you! Aram (talk) 07:54, 16 June 2022 (UTC)