Cohaf, your last sentence is another reason this isn't needed: there is already a specific vetting process for global edit filter helper, so if someone actually needs this, they can just ask for that.
The other issue you bring up about the circumventing being inherently part of GR is a bit different here. Despite what many in the community think, read-only user rights are often more sensitive than rights that let you do things. It is impossible for me to tell if someone has been going through private filter logs looking for people's credit card numbers before suppression happens, because, there is no trace that has been given. This is just one example of the type of thing that can happen with a read-only log.
I also kinda question if this is really needed for the group as a whole. I know I've never used filters extensively: I find them cumbersome and and I only look at them when someone else points it out to me. I think I've done a pretty decent job dealing with LTAs and socks basically never using the read-access I have. Now, I know that it can be helpful for some, but I think the overwhelming majority of GRs can be effective without this. If it is something they need and they are trusted enough, they can request GS or GEFH (or both.)
The tl;dr is that this can be fairly sensitive on large projects, isn't really needed for global rollbackers to be effective, and duplicates an existing vetting process. I know that GR tends to focus on small wikis, but the issue here is that private filters on large wikis are typically more sensitive, and this would give them access to those without any oversight, which is something I am very much not comfortable with. TonyBallioni (talk) 19:11, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
- @TonyBallioni:. Yes, I knew, I am saying that if this proposal fails, theres still a way to gain the access just as a note. Yeah, I agree on read only issue, the same is per deleted content, theres just no log to record who read what. I understood your concerns. Thanks for sharing, the potentially oversightable content is a danger, I wont want to see it either. Regards,--Cohaf (talk) 03:43, 15 July 2019 (UTC)