LSS/foundation-l-archives/2008 November 16-30

  • What is this? A summary of the topics discussed on the mailing list foundation-l, grouped roughly by topic & chronological thread.
  • Time period: Sunday, November 16, 2008 -- Saturday, November 30, 2008 (2 weeks, Sunday to Sunday)
  • NOTES: Each link is to the first post on that topic in the selected time period that was found. In the effort to group topics together, some threads are listed out of chronological order.
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  • Important topics: Topics that generated a lot of discussion or that are especially important are bolded.
  • Announcements: Topics that are official WMF board, staff or chapter announcements or reports are also underlined.
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  1. Languages and localization:
    1. Discussion of flaggedrevs interface localization progress [1], continuing discussion: [2], [3]
    2. New language projects: "Why we should use the community draft of the language proposal policy" [4]
    3. Wikipedia in American Sign Language: y/n? (and discussion of printed sign languages generally) [5]
    4. project language codes to change, list from Brion, please check & comment [6]
  2. The German portal at has been shut down, apparently over a legal dispute [7]
  3. Question about dual-licensing (GFDL & CC-BY) for a new site importing Wikipedia content [8]
  4. Wikibooks logo vote in progress (now winding down) [9]
  5. mention of the OLPC wiki [10]
  6. Chapters!
    1. Chapters Committee, new rules draft posted [11]
    2. Brazilian (proposed) Chapter: problems and discussion (turns into discussion of what should the general makeup of chapters be, and how to prevent aggressive people from taking over) [12]
  7. Events, contests and surveys:
    1. event announcement: "Open Everything Berlin" on 6 Dec. 2008 [13]
    2. Event announcement: Wikimedia Serbia conference on 19-21 Dec. in Belgrade [14]
    3. request for participation in survey of Wikipedia users, from some Taiwanese academics [15] (and another announcement of the same(?) survey: [16])
    4. Video contest on information sharing (deadline Nov 30 2008) [17]
  8. WMF's audited financial statements posted (from Veronique) and discussion [18]
    1. Link to the Mozilla Foundation's financial statements (for comparison?) [19]
  9. Semi-random message about en:wp checkuser policy: [20] (reply from OP: [21])
  10. Trademarks: what's the current situation for the WMF? (came out of the chapters discussion) [22], continued discussion: [23], [24]
  11. Fundraiser:
    1. further discussion of fundraising trends past and present [25]
    2. Phase 2 sitenotices posted, please comment [26] (more discussion - is "charity" a good word to use? [27])
  12. Controversy over articles about Ireland on en:wp (note: main discussion continued on wiki-en-l) [28]
  13. New offline reader for Wikipediaondvd project, please test [29]
  14. foundation-l list statistics for november [30]
  15. making pre-formatted wiki references to other web content [31]
  16. en:wp editing statistics! [32] (and a note: a new en:wp dump is in progress, cross your fingers [33])
  17. poor usability making it hard to participate leads to small language wikis failing? -- discussion of this & whether small projects are failing or not [34]