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One way to do this on the wikitext side is wrapping the cited text into a pair of templates:

  • an opening template {{OpenCCText}} that would not render anything visible (but might insert an opening <span class="open-cc-text">)
  • and a closing template {{CloseCCText}} that would add a <ref>[[File:CoolCCTextLogo.svg|25px]] {{Cite|blah...}}</ref> tag (and possibly a closing </span>tag.

This would achieve a semantic markup in the wikitext (and with the span tags also in the rendered html - additionally users could tweak their stylesheet to highlight text that is marked up this way).

The advanage is that we can completely rely on citoid and the visual editor plugin would only assemble a bit of wikitext. One thing to keep in mind is that adding support to edit such blocks once they are inserted might be non trivial (visual editor would still show the opening and closimg templates though). --Dschwen (talk) 19:15, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

Related effortsEdit

Here are some precedents set by similar efforts:

Citizendium was an effort to create a Wikipedia equivalent with more control over who might edit. Licenses for both Citizendium and Wikipedia are compatible, and the projects exchanged a large amount of content. This category was created by TakuyaMurata in 2007 and might be the first effort to note on a large scale when Wikipedia included open text from another source. Takuya - do you remember anything earlier? Is this your original idea? I think that practices for using this category influenced how other projects addressed the issue.

The 1911 Encyclopedia Britannia is the newest editing in the public domain and was an early base for thousands of Wikipedia articles. The legacy of this text remains in English Wikipedia today. @PBS:, you made this category in 2011. Do you know what people were doing to note use of this text before you made the category? To give credit with this system, one only puts this category on a page incorporating text.

This was a project of Wikisource:Wikisource:WikiProject Open Access most prominently led by Daniel Mietchen. It put open access articles in Wikisource, but also proposed to copy any or all of those articles into Wikipedia when appropriate. I am not sure if any best practices were confirmed in this effort, but the problem of giving notice of copied text was raised.

Note especially the Interactive Release Generator by @FDMS4:. With either the standard en:WP:OTRS process or this new automated release form, text releases into Wikimedia projects are getting more attention. The time to establish best practices is becoming much more ripe now. Two very common cases which will become more frequent as OTRS releases become more common are release of text by email to put into Wikipedia articles and release of text of requests for Wikipedia talk pages to change Wikipedia articles in some way. Although these processes do not currently have a best :practice for managing text releases, through OTRS there are at least 50 requests daily which could be interpreted as, "put this text in Wikipedia, and apply an appropriate copyright with appropriate credit for the text release".

@CFCF: At en:Wikipedia_talk:Wikipedia_Signpost/2016-06-15/Op-ed#Articles_aren.27t_only_created_by_Wikimedians you say, "The text is taken in large part from the CC-BY textbook. In fact roughly 80% of it is an adaptation of that text..." CFCF has been particularly thoughtful about how this should happen, and might have something to say about a best practice followed by a tool developed in this project. That "heart" article is a high-profile case which could set an example.

Blue Rasberry (talk) 14:19, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

"en:Category:Wikipedia articles incorporating a citation from the 1911 Encyclopaedia Britannica with Wikisource reference" has nothing to do with licensing it is a hidden maintenance category. There are a number of different similar hidden maintenance categories such as under en:Category:Wikipedia articles incorporating a citation from the 1911 Encyclopædia Britannica. They are just maintenance categories, and nothing to do with licensing. In Wikipedia articles, the different types of licensing, and how to satisfy them, are covered in the en:Wikipedia:Plagiarism guideline. For text copied from copyleft and public domain sources (such as en:EB1911) into Wikipedia articles, there are attribution templates like en:template:EB1911 that place the appropriate attribution wording on to the article page. Incidentaly, it is templates such as en:template:EB1911 that generate the maintenance categories found under en:Category:Wikipedia articles incorporating a citation from the 1911 Encyclopædia Britannica.
The category en:Category:Attribution templates lists over 200 such attribution templates including en:template:Citizendium and en:template:Citizendium copy
-- PBS (talk) 15:46, 2 July 2016 (UTC)
The template en:template:EB1911 was created in 2003 and simply generated an attribution string. Its ability to add articles to hidden maintenance categories was added in 2010. -- PBS (talk) 15:52, 2 July 2016 (UTC)
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