Grants talk:IEG/Artificial Intelligence for Wikimedia projects

Similar proposal

There was a similar proposal at Grants:IEG/Wikintelligence. You might want look at it (and discussions on its talk page), if you haven't. whym (talk) 12:51, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

That is an interesting idea. I will review it right now. -- とある白い猫 ^chi? 10:06, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

Organizing a research track?

I'm not sure what will be the main thing you will do in this proposed project. Is it to organize a competition track within a suitable academic AI conference (or perhaps an independent workshop) with ready-to-use data you will help prepare? If so, do you have some potential collaborators who can realize and sustain the event? You might want to try approaching the OpenSym people who have been organizing a conference in a neighboring field for years. whym (talk) 10:19, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

Completing proposal

Hi, I see you still haven't settled on a budget? Could you give some consideration into what funds you would need to achieve your goals in the timeframe of the grant? Would all of the funding be for project management, or some for travel, conference fees, etc.?

You haven't filled out the measures of success section yet. These are concrete, realistic but ambitious targets that you will be able to benchmark failure or success against. In 6 months, how many conference do you plan to attend, how many talk will you give, how many posters or papers will you write, how many contacts in the AI field will you make, how many workshops will you hold, etc. Measures of success help ground the proposal in specific goals that we can look at and see how you are doing, what's working or not.

Last, you should definitely notify places where technically savvy folks hang out:

• Wikimedia Research Committee: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Committee
• English Wikipedia Bot Approvals Group http://enwp.org/WP:BAG
• English Wikipedia Village Pump Tech http://enwp.org/WP:VPT
• Wikitech mailing list: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
• Research mailing list: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l

You should link to these notifications in the bottom proposal section on Community Notification.

Cheers! Ocaasi (talk) 21:58, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

More details needed to confirm eligibility

Hi, とある白い猫,

We're checking proposals for eligibility today and I see we're still missing some details for a 6-month scope/budget that would help make this proposal eligible for IEG review in this round.

If you'd like to be considered for this round, here is a suggestion about 1 way I imagine you could refine your scope in order to proceed:

• It feels like there are a lot of uncertainties involved in such a big idea, and these likely make it difficult to define a concrete plan for the whole project at this point! As such, I wonder if it would make sense for you to spend a first 6 months focused just on your first 2 goal areas: Requirement Analysis, and Design.
• I expect in that case you'd want some funds in your budget for leading the community consultations (funding for your own time to organize this? funding to travel to meetups to speak face-to-face with interested community members? etc), and some funds to travel to your first pilot conference (CLEF 2014 is in September, I note) in order to test the waters there. You can always make some adjustments in line-items for your budget later on, and you can always return unspent funds to WMF at the end of your IEG, so you don't need to have everything exactly settled before proposing a budget, but you do need to come up with some approximate numbers.
• I suppose some measures of success for an initial scope along these lines might be (1) the development of a concrete action plan to implement and test in a later phase of the project, (2) some measure of community engagement (at least x number of active Wikimedians (from Wikipedia, Commons, etc) endorsing the action plan and ready to support the pilot implementation, and (3) some sign-ons from the research community to participate in the pilot as an outcome of the first conference you attend.

Alternatively, you're welcome to keep iterating on this proposal until the next round of IEG begins in September, to see if more details can be firmed up thanks to conversations you've got planned at Wikimania, etc. It may be that I'm still not understanding your overall idea very well, so please feel free to take your time and continue to improve it as you see best! If I don't see updates on your proposal within a couple of days, I'll assume you're planning to hold off until a future round and we'll mark it ineligible for round 1 2013's review.

Best wishes, Siko (WMF) (talk) 21:20, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

Status updated

Just a quick note to say that, after our email conversation this week, I've updated the status of this proposal to draft, as I understand you'd like to take some more time to build up this idea before formally proposing it for IEG review. That sounds like a great path forward, as most big ideas take time to gather steam :) Hope to see this proposal return in a future round. Best wishes, Siko (WMF) (talk) 23:11, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

Proposing this round?

Hi とある白い猫, I'm checking in to see if you're thinking about proposing this project for an IEG this round. Looks like you haven't touched it for a while. If you're not planning to propose it this round, we will mark its status WITHDRAWN next week to clear it out of the review queue and still allow you to work on it again at your leisure. If you are thinking of picking it back up again at any point, though, please let me know and I'll be happy to help you update the page to our new proposal format! We're also hosting a few more IEG proposal help sessions in Google Hangouts and IRC next week, so please join if you'd like to discuss further in real time. Best wishes, Siko (WMF) (talk) 19:58, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

Actually no. There is a separate IEG I am working on. This one will need to take the back seat for a while. -- とある白い猫 ^chi? 20:30, 29 September 2014 (UTC)