Grants:IdeaLab/Enforce civility
Project idea
editWhat is the problem you're trying to solve?
editThere are admins who say they've given up about enforcing sanctions against editors who throw f-bombs and other vulgarities. They say if we don't like it we can leave Wikipedia.
What is your solution?
editFacing verbal abuse from what almost certainly are young, white, poorly socialized men is not something anyone should face. At the very least, using "fuck" and variations, including semi-censored ones like "f**k" should result in bright-line suspension for at least a day and accelerating for repeated uses.
deeds, not words
editSaying "fuck" is bad but deeds are more important that words. If there is a bully, that must be stopped, even if the bully doesn't say fuck. If the bully is an administrator, that is even worse because the administrator is the one with the blocking weapon. If an admin blocks, you can be certain that nobody will challenge the bullying admin. Ol' Boys Club is what it is. This must stop.
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editWowee Zowee public
- Volunteer I added ideas Wowee Zowee public (talk) 21:32, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
Endorsements
edit- I endorse this. There is no need for swearing or any of that nonsense on projects that are intended to be civil and collaborative. Tharthan (talk) 21:51, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
- I do endorse. See also Grants:IdeaLab/WMF support in administrative efforts of prevention of trolling and disruptive editing.--Abiyoyo (talk) 18:47, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
- I'd like to see an experiment to determine whether this drives female participation, but I definitely think it's worth trying Dingsuntil (talk) 05:12, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
- I endorse and my idea is related https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/Require_Apologies Beauxlieux (talk) 22:23, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
- As a feminist woman, and a non-violence lover, the main point (far above how much the subject is appealling or necessary for me) that motivates me for participating or staying in a collective or project is that it is a space based in mutual respect and care, free of all kind of violence and dominant attitudes. Aidafuente (talk) 17:47, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
- I wholeheartedly support this. In general, use of the term "fuck" in discussions doesn't help people collaborate on Wikipedia projects and only causes hostility. Luthien22 (talk) 22:08, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
- I wholeheartedly support this, too. As a female I'm discussed by obvious curse words. But mostly I, and others, have been exposed to more subtle forms of active incivility: questioning or mocking your intelligence, knowledge, reasoning ability, ability to comprehend wikipolicies is one form. The other is clear double standards within an conflict area: males are allowed to get away with far more obnoxious behavior than females, but females are punished far more severely for even imagined slights and insults. It's extremely disgusting. Carolmooredc (talk) 15:48, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
- Although civility doesn't solve the whole problem, it's an important part of building a better field for collaboration. Superm401 | Talk 04:15, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
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editDo you want to submit your idea for funding from the Wikimedia Foundation?
There is so much bullying in Wikipedia. Even worse is when administrators are bullies. I admit that there are more non-administrator bullies but administrators are supposed to be better than scum, not the same as scum.
To that end, bullying and incivility should be punished. Administrators who are uncivil or bullies should be rewarded by not having them do mopping....take away their mop.
Those that do not bully and are civil should be administrators or guest administrators for a month.
- That's a bit too extreme, I think. This bit. Tharthan (talk) 01:20, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
- It's actually normal to desysop admins for incivility. Ekips39 (talk) 16:06, 18 March 2015 (UTC)