Community Wishlist Survey 2023/Larger suggestions/Add semantics of processes

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Add semantics of processes

Problem: Wikidata describes things, not knowledge.
Proposed solution: extend wikibase model to also contain sequences, transformations, actions and processes, like "add", "move", "remove", "rotate", "wait", "first, "second", "last"
Who would benefit: chemistry, cooking, BPMN, Process Management, robotics,
More comments: If wikidata wants to be a database for knowledge, we should not stop at objects (pizza) and properties (consists of dough, tomatoes and cheese). We should also add a capability to describe, HOW to build objects. Papers are available at: K. Agyapong-Kodua, Csaba Haraszkó, István Németh, "Recipe-based Integrated Semantic Product, Process, Resource (PPR) Digital Modelling Methodology", Procedia CIRP, Volume 17, 2014, Pages 112-117 or "Cooking with Semantics", Jon Malmaud, Brain and Cognitive Sciences, MIT, Cambridge, MA and Earl J. Wagner, Nancy Chang, Kevin Murphy, Google, Mountain View, MA, Proceedings of the ACL 2014 Workshop on Semantic Parsing, pages 33–38, Baltimore, Maryland USA, June 26, 2014, Association for Computational Linguistics.
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Proposer: Michael Cieslik (talk) 21:31, 23 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

@Michael Cieslik: A major new data model like this is a large project, and so is out of scope for Community Tech. Moving to the 'Larger suggestions' category. SWilson (WMF) (talk) 08:23, 31 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Michael Cieslik: You may want to check out the Abstract_Wikipedia project, which might provide solutions to your problem. DWalden (WMF) (talk) 09:05, 31 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
No, for me Wikidata is a databank that indeed describes things (including concepts, locations and probably also other things). But it does a lot more: it connects those things to descriptions and files in other parts of Wikimedia, like Wikipedias, Commons and Wikibooks (with recipes for pizza's; see Pizza in Wikidata), at the bottom of Wikidata items. There (in the Wikipedias, Commons, Wikibooks, Wikivoyage and so on) is the knowledge that you asked for. Wikidata is the signpost to that knowledge. I think it is not up to Wikidata to be more than that, there would be a lot of doubling. --JopkeB (talk) 15:58, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Voting

Very strong support I believe that this is a strongly needed edition to Wikidata and can boost the community as a whole. NPRB (talk) 22:06, 13 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Libcub (talk) 04:54, 14 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support —‍(ping on reply)—‍CX Zoom (A/अ/অ) (let's talk|contribs) 08:00, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Definitely needed, but I don't think that an existing project can or should handle it. Maybe a new project for knowledge? Lukas Raich (talk) 20:27, 20 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support cyrfaw (talk) 10:57, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support An interesting idea, but it would obviously be a massive undertaking. Snowmanonahoe (talk) 14:34, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support This is middle-lined between Wd and Wikifunctions. Thingofme (talk) 01:53, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]