Community Wishlist Survey 2022/Editing/Subst templates that should be substed automatically

Subst templates that should be substed automatically

  • Problem: Currently bots have to subst templates that should be substed after edits are saved. Bots can go offline, and they can be hard to maintain, especially for smaller wikis.
  • Proposed solution: Automatically subst templates that are specified to need substing before saving edits, through some sort of configuration.
  • Who would benefit: Bot operators, editors in general
  • More comments:
  • Phabricator tickets:
  • Proposer: EpicPupper (talk) 03:30, 23 January 2022 (UTC)


  • Regarding a potential NOSUBST option, substituting can always be helpful for test edits, to be able to see what a template actually outputs. Even if you're not supposed to substitute a template normally. Jochem van Hees (talk) 15:36, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
    Not sure if @Izno was referring to "NOSUBST" as a "never substitute this template" option (in complement to this proposal) or "do not subst in this case" (in complement to the "subst:" syntax). ~~~~
    User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)
    18:52, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
    No, it would be a "never subst" option.
    As for a sandbox, a sandbox can also have that removed. :) Izno (talk) 19:36, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
    As for the opt-outs requested below, I'm not sure what that implies but I think it's "I'm adding this template here but I don't want to subst it", which would indeed be some sort of {{nosubst: syntax I guess. I don't have an issue with that. Izno (talk) 19:38, 8 February 2022 (UTC)