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Community Wishlist Survey 2019/Categories/Using HotCat for many uncategorized articles in one page

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  • Problem: As kowiki users, I and many editors in Korean wikipedia have a trouble with too many uncategorized articles. Considering low userparticipation of the community, a number of those articles are burdensome to us. Although HotCat is very useful tool for us, editing loads of the articles in one time contains unnecessarily repetitive tasks, because we have to go back to the page that has the list of uncategorized articles and choose the next page to change. Therefore I think it would be efficient to make a page that we can add categories with HotCat.
  • Who would benefit: Any users who are handling with uncategorized articles
  • Proposed solution: making a page that can manage all of the uncategorized articles, and makes it possible to add Categories with HotCat. And, the inteface I want is the list with header "name of article | first line of the article | HotCat tool". With first few words of article, anyone can easily figure out what category might fit to the article, because first line usually contains the definition of the ariticle.
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  • Proposer: Priviet (talk) 13:54, 4 November 2018 (UTC)

DiscussionEdit

  • This is a cool idea I think, but I'm not sure HotCat is the best way to fix it. --Izno (talk) 04:28, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
  • There's Gadget-Cat-a-lot, is that useful for you? --NaBUru38 (talk) 18:22, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
    • @NaBUru38: Isn't it just for files? Does the gadget work for general articles? -Priviet (talk) 13:18, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
    • Well, I just used Cat-a-lot now, but it is not what I wanted. What I suggested was for "Uncategorized Artices", and Cat-a-lot is for changing categories that already exist. :( -Priviet (talk) 14:27, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
      • I once thought along the same line as Priviet, but users on my wiki yuewp are quick to patrol new pages and add categories or {{uncat}}. With the latter you can find them in Cat:Uncategorised pages. There you can use Cat-a-lot. So a tentative solution to kowp would be to make a bot check for such pages and add the template.--Roy17 (talk) 00:16, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
        • Thanks for your opinion. We' ve already had {{uncat}} in the kowiki, which means I can see all the uncategorized aricles. However, the problem is we have to decide which category each article belongs to. This process can only be done by HUMANS, not a bot. So, the point of this suggestion is to facilitate the categorizing process by users, and I think making a page for managing these articles would be helpful. -Priviet (talk) 15:13, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
  • I wonder if the real problem is lack of reuse of categories between projects. A description of an entity can be different, thus content specific categories will be different, but the entity itself is the same across languages, thus the entity specific categories will be the same. It is really a Wikidata problem; how to propagate entity specific categorization to the articles in question, and hoisting of articles within a partially defined category tree. — Jeblad 08:26, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
    • True. But there are also the articles pertaining to domestic issues, persons, and organizations. It is not possible to use categories from wikidata when if there are no corresponding categories. Reusing the categories between wikiprojects is good idea, but still can't be a solution for all of uncategorized articles. -Priviet (talk) 15:30, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
      • Note that the anser to "It is not possible to use categories from wikidata when if there are no corresponding categories." is already given "hoisting of articles within a partially defined category tree." Articles are placed in the first found category moving upwards in the category tree. — Jeblad 20:50, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
  • May I try rephrasing this request as follows? A Cat-a-lot gadget that can be used on Special:UncategorizedPages. (There're only 128 pages on ko:Special:UncategorizedPages.)
  • As I said, the current effective solution is to add {{uncat}} to uncategorised pages. From there you can simply use Cat-a-lot in the Category:Uncategorised Pages.
  • It seems that ko:틀:Uncategorized does not add files to the tracking category.
  • See ko:케베체트 for example. A bot is already in place to add uncat, but the page is not included in any tracking cat.--Roy17 (talk) 19:23, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
    • There's also article preview available, popping up when cursor hovers over. I'm not sure if it has been introduced to kowp. Also, users might have to enable it manually via preferences.--Roy17 (talk) 19:43, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
      • Searching how many pages have ko:틀:Uncategorized transcluded returns a total of about 160. So, definitely uncategorised pages found on Special:UncategorizedPages (128) and pages with uncat (160) add up to be less than 300, which is not that much and urgent for a community of 2k+ active users, imo.--Roy17 (talk) 23:57, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
        • Thanks for your advice. :D -Priviet (talk) 22:56, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

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