Meta:Requests for adminship/Varnent

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Varnent edit

Varnent (talk • contribs • count • logs • page moves • block log • CA • email)
Ending ~~26 August~~ 2 September 2013 03:48 UTC Request prolonged to gain more input. -Barras talk 13:08, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I am a sysop for some other cross-wiki project wikis - such as Wikimania 2014, 2013, & 2012; Outreach; MediaWiki; AffCom private - as well as several non-WMF projects. I am increasingly being asked to help Chapters, ThOrgs, and User Groups with various Meta maintenance. I have also been working as a member of AffCom to clean up the pages related to the creation and development of Chapters, ThOrgs and User Groups. There are some sysop required moves I'd like to make, possible imports, and some other maintenance tasks - mostly related to my work on AffCom and as a developer. Was initially going to ask for temporary, but I suspect these requests will come for more than a month and some of the AffCom maintenance work will probably span over a few months. --Varnent (talk)^(COI) 03:48, 19 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Support: the candidate states why he needs the tools, and I do not see any possible problems.--Ymblanter (talk) 20:01, 19 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I would also be fine with temporary adminship.--Ymblanter (talk) 13:12, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral; very little activity in the months before August. But I also don't know whether temp. adminship (which can also be longer than a month) wouldn't be too ridiculous as affcom maintenance work probably doesn't stop too soon. --MF-W 20:17, 19 August 2013 (UTC) // support temporary adminship as suggested by Jan eissfeldt below. --MF-W 23:40, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support clear, and open-ended, need for the tools. Courcelles 01:44, 20 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I have been away for a while, so I might have missed something. But Didn't we still have that rule about content wiki admin being a requirement? None of the wikis Varnent mentions above, are content wikis I think. Theo10011 (talk) 05:57, 20 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- See diff. -Barras talk
- It was agreed to remove it as a formal requirement and leave it up to everybody's judgement. Snowolf ^{How can I help?} 19:34, 4 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support Why not? -FASTILY 06:27, 20 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Personally I think temporary adminship, for a year or so, is more appropriate. Trijnstel_talk 09:58, 21 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I'd be inclined to agree with Trijnstel. Temporary adminship for a year sounds better in this case. Ajraddatz (Talk) 04:11, 22 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I can see the logic behind a "trial period" for all new admins - regular or not. A year seems reasonable to me. --Varnent (talk)^(COI) 20:28, 23 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Technically, this is a good case of what I had in mind in tabling my arguments over the policy question back in RfA Vogone. No one doubts that Gregory is capable to handle the tools thoughtfully. However, this request seems inherently linked to the AffCom role played and I think it is sensible to grant the right for the duration of it (December 31, 2014) and then revisit the issue if helpful. Regards, --Jan eissfeldt (talk) 09:05, 23 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
This also seems logical and reasonable to me. I would also agree that my usage will mostly be linked to AffCom work. I certainly plan to help when I can, but I recognize that as a precedent - that may not always be the case - and there is no guarantee that I will indeed have the time to do that beyond any AffCom admin tasks. --Varnent (talk)^(COI) 20:28, 23 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I may also need to request translation admin to facilitate page moves depending on how things are setup. --Varnent (talk)^(COI) 22:33, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- You can assign that to yourself when you are a sysop. --MF-W 23:40, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  - Excellent. --Varnent (talk)^(COI) 02:26, 28 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support the candidate to what now seems to be a temporary assignation, and we can talk again at the conclusion of that period. — billinghurst sDrewth 01:10, 28 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support per above. Happy editing and good luck in the future, Varnent :). WorldTraveller101 (talk • contribs) 22:36, 28 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support, as long as it is needed. PiRSquared17 (talk) 19:52, 31 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
My interactions with this user in the past have been far from pleasant and tho they do date back from a while ago, I still remain uncertain that this user is interested in being respectful to dedicated contributors from the English Wikipedia. I also add that I would really like candidates to be sysop on content wikis, to have that experience, before applying here, unless there are particular circumstances that demonstrate their experience in dealing with users in that sort of roles, which I feel is missing here. A meta-wiki admin has very important duties and responsabilities, being able to close Requests for Comments, alter the global blacklist, etc. I think more experience in an administrative role dealing with users is required. Snowolf ^{How can I help?} 19:21, 4 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
While I do not recall what Snowolf is referring to - I do feel I should respond to the general comments. I certainly do support English Wikipedians (I consider myself active there), and am not aware of any evidence on-wiki to the contrary. Everyone has disagreements on issues, and I have certainly not refrained from engaging in controversial issues. I also acknowledge that generally speaking, edit counts, longevity, perceived status, etc. do not persuade me towards providing preferential treatment or consideration. I know that has at times upset long-time Wikipedians in discussions about MediaWiki development (when seeking input - I do not give one user's input more weight than another user - some disagree with that approach). However, I would point to my existing Wikimedia activities as evidence that these disagreements do not interfere with my effectiveness as a volunteer, ability to respect and follow community guidelines, or work with people I disagree with at times (I do not have a great memory - so that helps in not holding grudges). Finally, I personally choose to engage in more Wikimedia "meta" type activities. When I have been asked, I requested others not nominate me as an admin on project wikis as it is not a responsibility I take lightly, or one that I feel would help the activities I am currently doing. If that disqualifies me, so be it, but personally I am glad that policy was removed as I do not think it is a fair measurement of all of the various types of Wikimedia volunteers now engaged in the movement. --Varnent (talk)^(COI) 21:11, 4 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Temporary sysop granted for a period of one year. Tiptoety ^talk 05:08, 8 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]